Quote Originally Posted by growwatcher
OK. I give. I violated a cardinal rule of picking one's arguments. I cannot possibly spend the time to rebut everything that you just said. I do have one question for you though: If you're gonna call me "son," then I want to know how old you are and how old you think I am?

Cause logic like this:


is the exact same argument my kids have used when they want a word or phrase to mean something other than what it actually means. Which is fine, as long as they are aiming to not be understood by those around them.

As for the illuminati's existence being a documented fact: oh, please

It is no wonder that books & movies like the Da Vinci Code do so well -- people just love a grand conspiracy plot.

I will now bow out of this thread. Peace.

Grow
I was joking about the "son" part, sorry. I never assumed your age at any point, I just felt like saying it. Anyway, I am 24 years old. And yes, the Illuminati did exist, and may still exist. Like I said, it's not that the idea that they were involved in any grand scheme to overthrow the world that has been proven. The Illuminati is/was a secret society, which was started in 1776. However, that is documented history. There have been traces of the Illuminati all the way back to the Egyptian times, but it has not been proven. The Illuminati did/does exist. Look it up. It's a secret society, like I said. You can find tons of history on it... and there are many different Illuminatis. The most famous would probably be the Bavarian Illuminati.