WTF is going on with my plant??

[cwesto]

Life and Situation of my baby gurl:

My plant is like 5' tall, full sativa, which i have been letting grow naturally in my closet now since july 4. I got her at about 8", let her veg tell about 1 1/2' - 2'. she has been shooting up like a rocket since i have swithed her on 12/12 which has been for about, we'll say 45-50 days. She has small bud sites that are very hairy all over her, except on the top, where there are bud sites but they are not anything like in the middle of the plant, whats that all about???
I have been feeding her FoxFarm Tiger BLoom since bud sites have appeared, and it seems like in the last 2 weeks the bud sites ALL OVER the plant have gotten no bigger or hairier, once again WTF is that all about.


Some grow and design specs:

- Grow area is a closet about 8' x 2' x 4 1/2'.
- 400W HPS about 2' above top w/ a standard Sylvania 400w HPS bulb, (saving my 400w GrowBright bulb for next grow).
- FoxFarm Tiger Bloom since flowering which has a NPK of 2-8-4. I havent been using any other ferts, foods, or supplements the whole grow.
- Temps have been around 80 - 85 F during light and about 70 - 75 F at night.
- Container size is about 3 - 4 gals.
- Ph is always at or right below 7.
- I have been using tap water throughout the grow??? IDK about that one.
- i have a whole cut at the top of my grow area with a 6" desk fan drilled into the wall and point outwards, also i leave the door on the bottom of the enclosure cracked about 1' open for intake.

The things i am looking for advice on are:

1. If the top of the plant creates the best buds, then why are mine barely producing anything??

2. Why have the bud sites stoped growing??? are my plants experiencing some ort of suspended animation??

:rastasmoke: ***** If neone wants to see pic's of my plant check out my post "What strain does everyone think???" in the "indoor growing" forum. They are from about 3 days ago.***** :hippy::jointsmile:

cwesto Reviewed by cwesto on 09-14-2007. WTF is going on with my plant?? Life and Situation of my baby gurl: My plant is like 5' tall, full sativa, which i have been letting grow naturally in my closet now since july 4. I got her at about 8", let her veg tell about 1 1/2' - 2'. she has been shooting up like a rocket since i have swithed her on 12/12 which has been for about, we'll say 45-50 days. She has small bud sites that are very hairy all over her, except on the top, where there are bud sites but they are not anything like in the middle of the Rating: 5

[ismokealldaylong420]

Well it sounds to me that the pots are way to little for every foot of plant growth youll need atleast a gallon of medium:thumbsup:Is the top of the plant forming pollen sacks?Its sounds like you dont have enough room for the roots to grow and they are prob locked up not getting any nutrients.Thats what it sounds like to me but its very hard to be able to make a precise diagnosis without pics and its still hard enough that way.Your best bet to find out what the porblem is is to check every single thing.Do not overlook anything also there is tons of info on here just search the furoms on plant problems>?This thread will most likely end up there also.(I did not see that you had links to your plant pics but its prob tyhe container there in ask stinky she knows what she is doing)

[blink_inc]

Light leaking in? Leaving the door cracked 1" could throw everything off if light is getting in even for a few minutes.
Have you sat inside the closet with the door cracked 1" to see how much light is getting in. If it is any more than the light of the moon your cycle can be thrown off.

[highallthetime]

show pics

[cwesto]

i would show pics but my comp. is F'd up and i cant do attachment for some odd reason, BUT, if u look at my thread called "What strain does everyone think???" in the indoor section u can see some pics that are about 5 days old.
Also, i got in my gorw space the other day, which is my bedroom closet, to check for light leaks. There was absolute darkness with the closet door closed, even with all of my bedroom lights on. Which is why i believe it is probably a root prob.
I stopped by the local chron store the other day looking for some info. The owner of the store also thought my roots were locked b/c the top of the plant still has no bud action. He perscribed me with some granular Mycorrhizal fungi, said it ould get my root goin good again. So u guys should look for that thread to see pics and let me kno what u think, also about if this Mycorrhizal will be enough???? i like to ge many opinions, Thnx

PS i am in an altered state writing this so if some stuff doesnt make cents look 2 times :thumbsup: :hippy:

*******Here are the Pics!!!!!!!!!!! http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-gr...one-think.html

[blink_inc]

how often do you add nutes?
At full strength?

Do the leaves look healty? Any yellowing, spotting or discolouration?

I know you got inside and checked for light leaks with the door closed ....... but you said you leave it cracked 1" ....get back in there and leave it cracked 1" and see if you have light leaks. I'm willing to bet that is what is slowing things down. The light leak is causing the plant to go back to a veg state.

ME

[cwesto]

ok as for what the plant looks like, there is a link in a post about 2 spots up, it will show u what the plant looks like, so i dont have to give a noob description u can simply look for urself.

i add nutes about every other watering at full strength. i use tiger bloom only, i dont kno what else to use, remember im only still a noob.

As for the light leaks, the only time i leave the door cracked is during the light part of the cycle, in order to intake some good fresh air to my grow area, all doors and openings are completely closed when lights go off. Also if the plant was going back into veg state from a llight leak, which i dont think i have, wouldnt the existing buds wilt or start having probs if it were going back into veg???? They all look fine, they just arent getting any bigger, and the hairs are still 100% white so its not like its mature yet, u kno.

I stoped by the local chronic store the other day and the owener said it sounds like either a Ph prob or a root prob. He percribed me with a Ph kit and soem Micorrizal fungi. i administered the fungi yesterday and i think the plnat looks like it is trying to grow more now. But what is still sort of strange to me is the top of the plant is till growing upwards, but there is still no sig bud sites on the top yet????? Do the ydevelop last or something?????? And please click on that link and check out those pics man. I CANNOT attach anything, but u can look at the pics from the other day.

[ProGroWannabe]

Alright here's my two cents---that's all it's worth...

I looked at your pics in your other thread.
Transplant---not absolutely necessary, but a very good idea none-the-less.

1. If you have someone who already knows about the grow, have them help you to transplant it into a clean 5 gallon bucket. How to sanitize: add about 1 gallon of water to the bucket, then two tablespoons of bleach. Wash the inside of the bucket with this, then pour it down the drain. Immediately dry the bucket with a clean towel to keep the plastic from absorbing the bleach any more than necessary.Transplant from old container to new container and water as usual.

2. It looks as if there is a little bit of fert burn goin on in the pics I looked at. Some of the leaf tips are browning. Drop back to 3/4 strength on your nutes, less is more with nutes once you find the burn point.

3. You have a sativa for sure. I'd say a nearly pure sativa from the structure of the plant. So, you have another 30 days or so, before she'll be ready for the axe. Also, sativas stretch---sometimes ALOT. You need to exercise all the patience you can.

Follow what I've told ya and you should be rewarded with some really good smoke....if you give her enough time!
Good Luck!

[cwesto]

Dude ProGro, that is like Exactly what i was looking for, i think more people should give detailed info like u. However the prob with transplanting them that the plant will most def fall over if unassisted, hence the pop bottle (counterweight) also i put about a good 4" pea stone on the bottom of the container b4 the dirt to add drainage since i only had 1 drain whole. im thinking if upturn the container the weight of the stone will demolish the root ball, which is y i have been to hesitant to transplant through out the grow.

Another ? i had was my top will not stop growing and is now at the top of the area about 1' away from the bulb, which cannot be raised any higher. Should i attemt to bend the top to stop upward growth or what??? i need help

[ProGroWannabe]

First...your welcome for the previous info.

Second...if the pot is plastic, you can score the outside of the pot with a utility knife, then break it at the score line so as not to cut roots inside the container. You can do this two different ways. I'd cut the bottom of the pot out and just set it down in the new soil that's in the new container. i wish I'd thought to tell you this in the post above, but ....um....ooops!-lol


Third...start bending that top down now. If your slick, you can start bending the plant somewhere near the middle. As it grows upward toward the light again, bend it some more. Then start to tilt your light (if possible) to give the plant as much light as you can over it's entire length.---I know it's a little confusing, sometimes I don't explain things clearly enough for others. My problem-not yours. Anyhow, when its all said and done, your light should be almost parallel to your plant. Something like this: