hmm, been trying your methods for the smoke rings, my 2 friends preety much said the same thing, but i still cant get it to work. am i just doomed to not be able to do them? if i am doomed, its no big deal, but id love to be able to do one haha. its not like im gonna be getting to smoke any herb for a long while, due to me having a lame job, and $500 payments for my car, 240+for insurance, and the same for car payments, on my 99 mazda miata. got it when my rx7 broke for the last time, and now all my money goes to that. i get cigs for free so ive been smoking them to try and abate my need for the herb. alas, it doesnt work, but hopefully ill have some herb before i die, which, in the miata, wont be hard to die >_>. its a quick lil fucker haha. cant wait to get extra money to make my car as jdm as i can ^_^. keep tokin people! :rasta: