I think I may be becoming insane.... (spiritual discussion)

[steme]

This is no big strange occuerrence. Everyone has dreams that they experience death in. As soon as you die you wake up really quickly. Its a feeling of terror the second you wake up. But when you are awake you realize it was a dream and theres a thing called REALITY. And time goes on.

steme Reviewed by steme on 09-12-2007. I think I may be becoming insane.... (spiritual discussion) :(OK I think this is really serious and I don't know if anyone has gone through this or not. But here it goes - It all started 2 days ago - I went to sleep one night having no idea I was about to embark on by far the most powerful / strangest dreams I have ever had in my entire life. I went to sleep around 1AM. - I found myself sitting in the backseat of the truck with about 4 other people in the car maybe 3- I'm pretty sure I knew all of them but I don't remember exactly who they were. It Rating: 5

[zach5993]

This is no big strange occuerrence. Everyone has dreams that they experience death in. As soon as you die you wake up really quickly. Its a feeling of terror the second you wake up. But when you are awake you realize it was a dream and theres a thing called REALITY. And time goes on.

What is reality?

[Psychoactive420]

Zach - I am curious about the feeling of Nirvana but in order to live my life I need to put the feeling out of my mind. I think it is necessary to live a normal life. I'm guessing that time will put it out of my mind and I will move on and continue to live life out. MAYBE people have realized that Nirvana would come when they die so they created religion to live out normal lives.

[Psychoactive420]

What is reality?

the state of things as they actually exist - from wikipedia don't know if it helps at all lolz

[Psychoactive420]

good talk guys I hope I will be able to get out of this mindfuck state of mind and live like I did before I got mindfucked

[zach5993]

The state of things as they actually exist.... haha check out this fanatical website for its veiws on relegion. I do not follow its policies but its got some info on reality. I swear its not porn, I dont think they know it spells anus.

[Coelho]

Zach - I am curious about the feeling of Nirvana but in order to live my life I need to put the feeling out of my mind. I think it is necessary to live a normal life. I'm guessing that time will put it out of my mind and I will move on and continue to live life out. MAYBE people have realized that Nirvana would come when they die so they created religion to live out normal lives.

Man... i think if you actually forget this experience and live a "normal life", you will be wasting the greatest gift you ever had in your whole life.
Have you stopped to think how much millions of people spends hours, days, and even their entire lifes meditating, praying, or whatever, for trying to reach the so-called nirvana?
And you had the vision of it absolutely free, with any effort from your part. It would be like winning the big prize in the lottery...

We all will die. Everybody should be aware of it. Everybody should remember it all the time. We dont know when, so it may be right now. You said that it makes you depressed. Well, you and everybody else are gonna die regardless their feelings.
So, use the memory of death for your benefit. Do the things you would like to, as soon as possible. Tell everybody you like how much you like them. Enjoy the simple pleasures of the life. Dont worry about the future. Dont worry about unimportant things. You are alive, and thats the ONLY thing that really matters.

Im one of the ones who spends their time seeking the nirvana, so if i had an experience like yours, it would change completly my life. I know (rationally) that nothing in this wolrd really matters, but dont have the "feeling", i didnt experienced what you did, and thats why my life is still pretty "normal". I worry, i suffer, i dispair, like any "normal" people. I know that all suffering and pain can be transcended, but im not able for doing it myself, and fear i wont while i dont have a great life-changing experience like yours.

So, i would suggest you to dont try to forget your experience, even because you wont. You know that it was deeper than the undertanding, deeper than the reason. Your mind just cant erase this. You can bury it, deny it, as many people does when have "traumatic" experiences, but its no good, because this buried things always come back, sooner or later. Any psychanalist will agree with me here.
So, my advice is: use your experience for your own growth, mental, and spiritual. You dont need to believe in God for being a spiritual peson. Read about religions. Buddhism is a very good one for start with, as you experienced the ultimate goal of it.

And, please, dont acomodate yourself with the "normal life". The "normal life" is for the common people, the not-enlightened ones, the ones that think they will never die, and make all the mistakes caused by it. You was enlightened. So, again, dont waste it. It is the greatest gift any human may recieve.

"and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32

PS. One last note. Most western philosophy wont help you. Most western philosophers are too much down-to-earth to even concieve what you experienced, so their views about life and death are helplessly wrong. If you find any answers, it will be in religious texts, oriental philosophies, or psychedelic literature. Anyway, good luck! :thumbsup:

[Coelho]

That makes sense, the questions that we want the answers to the most ( truth of afterlife, point of life) are unanswerable and if we do attempt to answer them, it will destroy our lifes?

Well... i think it would "destroy our lifes" because our lifes are based upon illusions, and misconceptions about everything. We humans are so lost that we dont even know that were lost. It like the Matrix.
How it would be to realize that everything you believed that was "real" and "your life" was only an illusion?
BTW, Matrix is much more real than people thinks... not that we live a computer-simulated life, but, what we call "reality" is an illusion created by ours senses and our mind. This point is discussed also in many different religions (mainly the oriental ones), as well as in shamanism, magic religions and so.
There is one part in us that fears the unknown, and likes its confortable and known life, so this part makes all the efforts to shut up any perceptions or glimpses we may have about the "true" nature of the reality. Thats why people feels "divided" after experiences like that. One part of your mind wants to live the "real" life, but another part wants to keep you pinned down to the "illusional" life, cause its well known to it.
To choose between reality or illusion is to choose which mind you will hear, and which mind you will ignore.
Note that the mind which lives in illusion is VERY cunning, so it will make everything possible for deny the "real". It will use ALL rational arguments, it will make you feel sad, it will use anything at hand for trying to led you again to the illusion.
But remember that your perception [of the nirvana] was beyond words, beyond reasoning, beyond feelings, so dont let this perception of the nirvana be clouded by words, or reasonings, of feelings, or whatever. They all are just your "illusion-liking" mind trying to dominate again. So,
May the force be with you.

PS. BTW, this illusion-liking mind is not actually ours... its a "foreign instalation", in the words of Don Juan Matus. But i wont enter in detail here...

[mfqr]

Sounds like you had one of those life-changing dreams. That's a good thing -- you learned something from one of your dreams. It is one of the functions of dreams. You aren't insane, you have a lingering atmosphere of the dream. I've had these, where the feeling of the dream lingers while you're awake. If you can learn how to control the atmospheres you feel, then you can get rid of it, or change a bad one to a good one.

[Psychoactive420]

Coelho Thank you.... you are exactly right....I will not be able to erase the feeling I felt or deny it. I am thinking about it all the time.... my perceptions of people and relationships and pretty much everything are completely changed.... I had no idea people actually spend their lives trying to feel what I felt in the dream. I guess I thought I was going insane because the feeling contradicted my parents feelings on afterlife and many other peoples. So I guess I would try to ignore it... and act like everyone else did and believe in god so I would fit in with society....thank you Coelho that was very helpful. I have already wrote like 17 pages in my journal elaborating on my experience and how I perceive things completely differently ( for example at school, at work, in my house ) Its like being reborn again or "rebooted" I feel like an outcast... I had no idea that this dream would have such an effect on me... I thought I would just forget about it in a day or so but it is burnt into my mind...I cant stop thinking about it... even if I try really hard... watching tv, listening to music...... bagging groceries at my job.... NOTHING is the same...its like my life revolves around that dream I had a couple days ago...The feeling comes at me in "waves" of the same feeling each day... I thought it would phase out....but I am coming to the realization it won't.... instead of denying it I will embrace it....- me just saying that felt like it was helpful... thank you..