Abortion is Un-American

[Buck268]

Governmental legislation of morality is unAmerican!!

[Encatuse]

Abortion isn't unamerican...

It's what's for dinner.

[Torog]

Abortion isn't unamerican...

It's what's for dinner.

Howdy Encatuse,

I presume that you are joking ?

[Encatuse]

You've presumed correctly Torog. I think abortion is disgusting, depressing, and overall an incompassionate thing to do.

But, I believe it's our right as an American.. though if I were female, I'm 100% positive I wouldn't be able to have one.

[Button Basher]

EDIT:
Fuck it, decided not to post this. Just remembered i'm not interested.

[Encatuse]

EDIT:
Fuck it, decided not to post this. Just remembered i'm not interested.

hahaha thats awesome ^.^

[Nullific]

Howdy Torog,
What a nice cute picture of a fetus at 20 weeks, which in my opinion is pretty late for an abortion if the mother knows she can't support/does not want to carry a child.
Take a look at some of my pictures. You'll see the cute little baby after 30-40 years of growth.
Look at all the other embryos, they're cute too, and some have striking resmeblace to that of the human, maybe we should outlaw killing them too.
If you're xtian you'll believe that childbirth is a miracle or something like that, others believe that this only creates the physical being and the spiritual being will move on if development of its body is aborted. Lets not get religion mixed in with this issue, because religion isn't law in america and ultimately it is the womens choice.

[Encatuse]

Nullific - You'll get Torog started on a whole different issue, because in his opinion ((though it isn't a matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact)) America's law is based on Christianity.

[GooseBear]

I'm completely pro-choice
If a women is raped and dosen't want the child what is she to do. Another thing the man gets off with nothing. There should be laws about his sperm/testicles then if there is laws about a womens own uterus. If the government can control a women's body there is something wrong.

What will they say next "Women shall have the depo shot because men find it disgusting and "wrong" that they bleed from there crotches every month" I mean it is the women's own body and she can choose to do whatever she wants with what is growing on, inside, outside where EVER it may be!

I do not think however that it should be used as birth control.

Enactuse it's easy to say "if I was" , your a guy and you will never understand how it is to have a female body.

[GHoSToKeR]

Governmental legislation of morality is unAmerican!!

That's the best thing anybody said so far.

Torog, the debate isn't whether abortion is wrong or right, American or unAmerican.. The debate is whether the government should be allowed to make their laws based on their own morals and religious beliefs. The answer to this should always be no. I don't like the idea of abortion, but I understand that sometimes it is neccesary, and so I am pro-choice; I am never going to be in position where I need an abortion, so why is it up to me to decide whether it is wrong or right? Youre never going to be in that position either, Torog, and nobody is ever going to force anybody you know to have an abortion, so why are you calling for it to be banned? Also, Church and State should be seperate, so the government should always be pro-choice.

"the tyranny America seeks to end will spread through the very rhetoric of democracy it uses, should the bin Ladens and Hitlers be democratically elected to power."

Now, correct me if im mistaken, but havent the bin Ladens and the Bushs been pretty good friends up until recently? Im sure - and, again, excuse me im if wrong - that the bin Ladens have been lining the Bushs pockets for a long time... Also, if you look closely enough, you'll see that the Bush of today isnt so different to the Hitler of the 1930's... http://www.falloutshelternews.com/BushHitlerLinks.html

Anyway, as I was saying.. Governments should always be pro-choice in matters of ethics and morality. There's no two ways about it, and if you are against governments being pro-choice, then you are wrong. It's that simple.