Possible method for STRONGER and more TRICHS, Please read!!!!!

[Joe Budden]

Hey guys I was on another growing forum and picked this up, what do you guys think? Please comment:


hey I was watching a documentary about human interactions with plants and it was pretty interesting. One of the things they were talking about is that many of our soaps and lotions contain something called "jasmonate" which is a chemical that plants use as a warning to itself when it is being attacked by insects and pests. When the plant gets a whiff of this smell it secrets its anti pest inflammatory agents to combat them before they get to do the damage.

After hearing this and thinking that trichomes are marijuana's main defense against pests with its pungent smell, super stickiness, and chemicals to deter attacks. as we know that along with UV protection, and pollen collection is why marijuana secrets resin. Most animals only mess with herb up until two or three weeks of flowering when resinous buds are developing.

So I did a google search and found some information that made it sound like it might be useful as an aroma therapy in the last two weeks of growth.

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here are exerpts from "laboratory news"

Using radioactively "tagged" molecules and sensitive detectors to produce high-resolution images, the scientists demonstrate that jasmonate, a hormone produced by plants in response to stress, moves quickly throughout the plant. This provides evidence that jasmonate may be responsible for "broadcasting" an "attack" warning to trigger widespread defensive action. The studies, which have been published by the journal Planta, also demonstrate that jasmonate affects the movement of sugar, the basic commodity for plant growth.

"It's like an adrenaline rush," said Brookhaven plant scientist Richard Ferrieri, corresponding author on the paper, suggesting that the jasmonate-triggered rush of sugar may help fuel the plant's defensive response.

"We were able to 'see' jasmonate move within both the phloem, which delivers sugars from the leaves to places where it is used for storage or growth, and the xylem, which delivers water and mineral nutrients from the soil. The findings could have major ecological and evolutionary implications for our broad understanding of signaling in plants,"

Scientists have known for some time that, after one part of a plant is damaged, defensive responses soon occur in other regions, showing that information of the attack is somehow transmitted to warn other regions to be on the defence. Jasmonate has been implicated in signaling this information.

Using radiolabeled sucrose, scientists can study the effects of jasmonate and of pharmaceuticals that change specific processes within experimental plants. In the Brookhaven study, jasmonate applied to certain focal leaves increased the active loading of sugar into the vasculature of those tissues, as well as the movement of sugar to all parts of the plant.

"We believe that jasmonate enables more chemical energy to become available to the plant's transport-system, resulting in more sugar delivered to other parts of the organism that are acting defensively," Ferrieri said.


"Obviously, the techniques could have significant implications for improving agriculture in this country," Ferrieri said. "But we also see opportunities for improving plant performance in other roles: for example, in using plants to clean up environmental pollutants, a process known as phytoremediation, or improving the production of biofuels from crops to enhance this country's future sustainability and energy security."

This research was funded by a Laboratory Directed Research and Development grant, by the Office of Biological and Environmental Research within the U.S. Department of Energy's Office of Science, and by the German Academic Exchange Service.


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So I was thinking. What do you guys think of finding one of these candles or something that contains this jasmonate and let it waft into the grow room.

It sounds like all it would do is perhaps aid in a flush by convincing the plant to use more of its energy and thus draining it of nutes better. And perhaps even put energy into its defense system and that would be trichomes. A big benefit to us.

Don't get me wrong I don't know much about this. I just saw it mentioned in a documentary and looked a lil bit up. I wanted to know what other people might think of this. And specifically think of how or why this might hurt instead of help the plant. Off the top of my head I don't see any reason unless you used so much it was noxious and harmed the plants.

Joe Budden Reviewed by Joe Budden on 09-10-2007. Possible method for STRONGER and more TRICHS, Please read!!!!! Hey guys I was on another growing forum and picked this up, what do you guys think? Please comment: hey I was watching a documentary about human interactions with plants and it was pretty interesting. One of the things they were talking about is that many of our soaps and lotions contain something called "jasmonate" which is a chemical that plants use as a warning to itself when it is being attacked by insects and pests. When the plant gets a whiff of this smell it secrets its anti pest Rating: 5

[turtle420]

Sounds like a shot...

Wait, lemme read this in full.

[blink_inc]

interesting read.

does molasses do the same thing?

[PopaBean]

Wow..you people never cease to amaze me...
Interesting...we need Rhizome to chime in.
He is our resident scientist.

[rhizome]

Hmm.. inneresting thought...

I think somebody should set up an experiment- first we need to demonstrate an effect, and then we need to demonstrate that it was the jasmonate, and not another component of the candle smoke ( I'm thinking CO and CO2) that caused the effect.

Also, it'd be interesting to know what the physical properties of jasmonate are- will it remain stable as a vapor, what's oxidate, etc...

Also how the plants are going to react to the other smoke/vapor components.

Gotta tell ya though, I'd expect a stress reaction to trigger hermaphrodism, more than increased trich production...

But hey, give it a shot.

[rocktheganj]

you could just like do the pinching method.... makes ugly plants but supposedly makes more thc...

[Joe Budden]

Well you could always put a few UV Lights in your grow room, I'm sure you will pull more resin off the plants. All the big hash producers in the world like Morocco, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Africa are growing their hash up high in the mountains, why? Well if you think about it they are closer to the sun and the plants are getting more UV light therefore producing more trichs to protect itself.

I think if we used this method and the pinch method rocktheganj suggested, you could simulate an 'attack' on the plant. Even if you topped and cut off a few leaves I think the plant would react as if it were being attacked??

Lots to think about here

[palerider7777]

make me wonder theres a guy on here that said he mixes dawn corn syrup lye and something else a week b4 cut and it makes for more dense buds/trichs along with a smooth taste i can't remember where i read it but he's on here sumwhere, makes me wonder now if it had something to do with the jasmonate in the soap ???

[stinkyattic]

There's a product called Messenger meant for turf farming... it gives some crazy growth in veg. I'd NEVER use it in flower, and I don't know if the stress response from Harpin is enough to trigger herms in most strains, but that's what I would go with instead of soap if I were to play around with this.

[GoldenGoblin]

not sure about putting that stuff on my garden

think I would just go the UVB route.

(since were reinventing the wheel-hehe stinky)
Still interesting though