Cannibas absorbed through skin? if you know, please help

[Opie Yutts]

Actually, I once saw a special on T.V. of a hemp clothing store in Amsterdam and the guy working there did say that the clothing may contain enough THC content to fail a drug test.

One guy working in a clothing store is correct, providing you smoke or otherwise heat up and injest mass quantities of clothing.

[Opie Yutts]

THC does not actually enter the blood stream.

HUH? How the hell does it get to your brain then? Squirrels on wheels?

[Opie Yutts]

purple banana, that's probably the best, most stoner avatar i've ever and could ever come across. :rastasmoke:

thekhoso, what are you talking about? Yours moves, for crying outloud. I'm getting hypnotized right now.

[Opie Yutts]

YES YOU CAN absorb THC through the skin, however it requires large amounts to get any effect. I experimented with making lotions and have had some very good results. The high is very different from both injestion and smoking, but very pleasurable none the less.

Basically it would take very large amounts of raw very high grade oil, mixed with the right adjuncts to promote skin absorbtion to get any effect and to test positive on a test. Or if you do extractions with butane and are really messy, then that can do it too if enough spills on your skin (although it can cause frostbite so I don't recommend it).

Opie Yutts>
You don't need to heat the oil to 325 degrees to release the cannabinoids through your skin or through injestion, that is the point the oil becomes vapor and is best suited for smoking or vapo. People injest all the time. If heating to 325 degrees were the only way it would work it would burn your mouth, throat, stomach, etc if you ate it at that temprature.

Holy crap. OK you made lotions with oil. That oil was at one point heated. And I never said it had to be 325 as it was going into your mouth. The resins of the marijuana plant must be heated at some point to realease the THC and CNB. Smoking, vaporizing, brownies, tincture, hash oil, are all heated at some point to around 325 before going into your mouth. Instructions with my vaporizor say to set the temp to 350.

After you are done rubbing your weed on yourself to see if this works, many of the trichomes will have been rubbed off on your skin. Scrape these up and smoke them. They are what get you high, not the vegatative matter. If you eat them without heating them, it will taste like oil or tar, and nothing else will happen. Send me any leftover test weed.

[bobelod]

Actually the oil is never heated to anywhere near 325 degrees (butane extractions). Maximum amount of heat that is ever applied is 172 degrees, and most times it is much less.

For injestion I never bake, and only put the ingredients in capsule form.

The lotions are not very cost effective, but they do work. It is something that works well if you are traveling and want to "hide" your stash. Typical mixes are about 8% raw oil to other ingredients, and usually require a minimum of 4 grams lotion (which is more than you would think so expect to apply it liberally) to experience a decent high. They come on quickly (within 10 minutes), and wear off fast (20 to 40 minutes).

[Opie Yutts]

Butane extraction is a way to get the trichomes out of the plant. If you are rubbing never-heated trichomes on yourself or eating them, wether it is in oil form or hash form or sitting on the bud form, you are wasting the vast potential of those trichomes. Heat them up to over 325 and the high will probably be 50 or 100 times greater.

Anybody? Is it just me? Have me and my smoking buddies and scientists been wrong for the past 30 years that I have been smoking weed?

Everything I have read about butane extraction said that they somehow heated the extraction before putting it into their body. Please show me otherwise. I'm not saying that I can't be wrong about this, but I'm going to need some kind of proof.

[allah]

HUH? How the hell does it get to your brain then? Squirrels on wheels?

Ha, no. It just doesnt enter your blood stream. I really had no idea what the hell he was talking about, but he seemed enough of a pot head that he should know what he was saying. He owns a hemp clothing store in Amsterdam for christ sakes.

[Opie Yutts]

Ha, no. It just doesnt enter your blood stream...

Again, how does the thc and cnb get to your brain? I thought it was carried through your bloodstream.

Looking back I may have misunderstood. Do you mean the thc will not enter your bloodstream from wearing hemp clothing? If so, I agree completley. The hemp that clothing makers use has been specifically engineered to have minimal amounts of thc and maximum amounts of stringy rope-like tendencies in the stalks and branches.

[twoguysupnorth]

thc is only alcohol and fat(oil,butter) soluable. you wouldnt get it from wearing a shirt of hemp(which contains no thc to speak of) the reason people heat the mj is to release the thc into their food/whatever not to keep it at a hot temperature. when the mix is heated it should quicken the process of disolving into oil or the lower heat is use to evaporate water and alcohol from the mix of hash or hash oil. heat degrades thc so lower temps and the least amount of time are the best. LOL, what was this thread called again??? P.S. this oil that jesus used had many, many other ingrediants such as murr, inscence, herbs, just alot of stuff besides thc or weed. some of these may be theraputic or hallucinitory (sp) in themselves.

[bobelod]

I think twoguysupnorth has it nailed, it is a myth that you have to heat THC to "activate" it for injestion or absortion. I have tried every immaginable way to work with cannabinoids and all that heat ever seems to do (with the exception of carrying out cannabinoid conversions) is breakdown some of the tetrahydrocannabidols into its lower forms; one example is the promotion of oxidation of THC causing the formation of cannabinol.

As far as the Hemp T-shirt goes, and failing a urine test I have an exceptionally difficult time believing that is actually true.

Drug tests not only test for Delta 9 THC, but they are also designed to test for base cannabinoids which even though those substances are found in great quantities in hemp vs. THC (although considerably lower than regular cannabis) I still doubt the validity of that arguement, there simply isn't enough material in the shirt to transfer to your body,

Even if you managed to absorb every bit of the cannabinoids from your shirt Hemp at best in it's raw unadulerated and unprocessed form contains an average of about 4.53 grams of raw extract per pound of hemp, processed Hemp, like you shirt for example contains MUCH less. Then as it gets washed in a soapy warm water solution over the years the cannabinoid content would go close to zero.

Also absorbtion through the skin is highly ineffective. It takes extremely large quantities of Exceptional oil quality to produce even mild effects. Long story short, I don't see it happening.

At the same time, YES you can test positive from absorbtion through the skin from sloppy extractions, or in my case actually making lotions that are designed to absorb readily into your skin, but it takes A LOT.

Hope this helps.