because in the same way you could verify the facts from madd you can verify the facts in there and for your information madd and various other groups are who started the gov. tracking of numbers on the topic and there numbers on there site are accurate as are these very bad example
and byt the way the sight links to all there information sources and the source are backed in many other places this is just a site that complied the evidence, every statement on those sites is sighted and as I said above I was ask for the proof Im not going to do the work for you of going to all the individuals source and individualy proving them to ppl that will still ignore and deny them regardless of how highly supportive the evidence is. I do know what an indepentent source is and they are listed on that site as welll next time try reading the whole site not just what you can find to think youve discredited and then you can go to those independant sources listed there and see for yourself I should not need to do the work for you do this next time before writing a discrediting statement, that is called indepentdant research do you know what that is or how to do that?