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09-07-2007, 01:28 PM #1OPSenior Member
US terror law 'unconstitutional'
BBC NEWS | Americas | US terror law 'unconstitutional'
I thought this was pretty interesting. The patriot act isn't understood that well, i tried reading it for a bit but its full of paragraphs that just reference other sources. Its scarey though a lot of the freedoms american's thought it was protecting from the middle east have just been lost because of the act itself.
I guess just because a Judge said it was unconstitutional will mean it will get held up in courts for years but its good to see someone with some power making a stand.660 Reviewed by 660 on . US terror law 'unconstitutional' BBC NEWS | Americas | US terror law 'unconstitutional' I thought this was pretty interesting. The patriot act isn't understood that well, i tried reading it for a bit but its full of paragraphs that just reference other sources. Its scarey though a lot of the freedoms american's thought it was protecting from the middle east have just been lost because of the act itself. I guess just because a Judge said it was unconstitutional will mean it will get held up in courts for years but its Rating: 5
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09-07-2007, 01:37 PM #2Senior Member
US terror law 'unconstitutional'
LOL.....I'd still LOVE to hear of these freedoms that I've lost. I make no international calls to terrorist ridden countries nor do I send e-mails to them..........
So, can ANYONE explain on how my "rights" have been violated? I personally think that my rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness would be more in danger if these assclowns were permitted to plan their attacks freely.
Have a good one!:s4:
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09-07-2007, 02:34 PM #3Senior Member
US terror law 'unconstitutional'
i dont know united nations laws, but when you are guaranteed a right of privacy or free speech or anything else and it is taken away from you, that is worse in my eyes. i would rather me or any one else die in an attack than have my KIDS FREEDOM TAKEN AWAY BECAUSE OF 1 SUICIDE BOMBER.
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09-07-2007, 02:45 PM #4Senior Member
US terror law 'unconstitutional'
Psycho- I guess you have to be in the midst of things to understand the extent. The Patriot Act supporters claim they're listening for terrorists through the phone lines; I guess they use AT&T or something, I think they get better rates if they register on a family plan...
My sister-in-law works with a large public library near Ann Arbor, and each month, she is required by the Patriot Act to submit a list of names who have checked out certain books, when, and give their numbers to a service. Not only does it take up enormous amounts of unpaid time from her schedule, but in addition to certain engineering books, a few religious ones, and history books, members often check out herbology books dealing with cannabis horticulture.
True, they shouldn't be so public about cannabis growing, (it IS Ann Arbor, though...) it's just a shame that people have to watch their backs and have their name and info sent to an agency for simply checking out a ship engineering textbook. She followed up with one of the members who had checked out a "watched" book, and he claimed he was recieving solicitation calls regarding other books he had checked out.
The right of PRIVACY is being invaded... I'm not a far-left liberal Democrat pinko, I have a good amount of Conservative values, a few liberal as well, so I'm not trying to make the US sound like 1984, but it's still unsettling that more and more cameras are being installed on my city streets. And guess what? Crime rates are going up in the areas that DO have cameras. I don't like being watched regardless of whether I am doing something illegal, or being a law-abiding citizen. Not only is it unsettling, but it is wasting money to put up these surveillance cameras, have someone montior them, and then what? Once I've been shot three times in the back, and the guy runs away with my wallet, will they be able to zoom in on my credit card number and cancel it for me?
What I'm trying to say is we DO need to protect our homeland, but not through unconstitutional methods.
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09-07-2007, 08:26 PM #5Senior Member
US terror law 'unconstitutional'
Another perfect example of why we need to quit electing attorneys to public office.If they're an attorney,don't vote for them.
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09-07-2007, 09:03 PM #6Senior Member
US terror law 'unconstitutional'
Originally Posted by texas grass
I know the whole thing leaves a bad taste in many mouths but as for myself....I'll put up with a bit of big brother looking in for the safety of the many.
Have a good one!:s4:
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09-07-2007, 09:05 PM #7Senior Member
US terror law 'unconstitutional'
Originally Posted by Purple Banana
Have a good one!:s4:
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09-07-2007, 11:00 PM #8Senior Member
US terror law 'unconstitutional'
another part of this is the REAL ID CARD ACT, in may of 08 it is mandatory for all american citizens to have a federal card with either fingerprints and or eye retnal scans, social security card, and RIDF chips. that does not make you safe having all of that on you, if anything it makes you more vunerable to attacks, and can also be tracked at any moment
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09-07-2007, 11:01 PM #9Senior Member
US terror law 'unconstitutional'
i would rather protect myself family and neighbors together, as i feel communities can give better protection
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09-07-2007, 11:09 PM #10Senior Member
US terror law 'unconstitutional'
1 last thing
as your flags state it seems you are in the united nations, and you have always had monarchy/big brother
and when you take away guaranteed rights you are not so free anymore
blah blah blah and this is why most the world sucks CAUSE ITS NOT FREE
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