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09-04-2007, 09:00 PM #1OPSenior Member
Early Flowering/Burning Tips
So I've been growing awesome herb for over a year, but I've gotten mixed up in trying new methods, when really I was providing ideal enough conditions in the first place. I'm getting back to basics, but this plant here has suffered soil problems. You'll notice in the second pic, blurry in the undergrowth, some dead leaves. That was an acid problem that I resolved.
There is an issue as can be seen with the new foliage. I know the reason why. I mistakenly transplanted this tender northern lights female into a shitty product called Scotts Earthgro. It has hypnum peat which I believe is too hot for the roots. It's too late to mix in more perlite or anything. Is there any additive that will neutralize what's going on here? Do I need to re-transplant into a different medium?burnable Reviewed by burnable on . Early Flowering/Burning Tips So I've been growing awesome herb for over a year, but I've gotten mixed up in trying new methods, when really I was providing ideal enough conditions in the first place. I'm getting back to basics, but this plant here has suffered soil problems. You'll notice in the second pic, blurry in the undergrowth, some dead leaves. That was an acid problem that I resolved. There is an issue as can be seen with the new foliage. I know the reason why. I mistakenly transplanted this tender northern Rating: 5
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09-05-2007, 05:50 AM #2Senior Member
Early Flowering/Burning Tips
I think Scott's earthgro is a low ph product. Some of it has pine bark in it which would be in itself I believe high in acid. I think you may want to check your ph. I would take a reading of the water going into your pots, and then take a ph reading of the water running off.
Forget the perlite I would say. It has to be mixed into soil before you plant. It also has no nutrients or ph. If you transplant you still take the soil with you in the rootball. I would try to fix the soil, if you think that is the problem.
You may want to get some ph down solution to add to your water. What fertilizers are you using?
Have you measured your ph of the water run off from the plants? That can be really interesting. I just flushed some plants with water of ph7 and had a run off of 5.7. So keep an eye on that
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09-05-2007, 07:50 PM #3OPSenior Member
Early Flowering/Burning Tips
I'm getting a consistent soil ph of about 6.8. i can put in some dry base concentrate into the water solution but I don't know how much good that'll do. thanks dr.
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09-07-2007, 04:00 PM #4Senior Member
Early Flowering/Burning Tips
your soil brand sucks...hypnum peat can vary in PH from 4.0 - 8.0.....
another grower is going through the same thing....hypnum peat
keeps the soil @ 7.6 even after flushing 6 times, the soil PH cannot be corrected, he is now transplanting to better soil
also another pic of the whole plant may help I see several leaves that appear over watered or most likely nitrogen toxicity "the claw"
another reason to complete a runoff test
soil runoff PH test.......
with PH corrected water (6.5-6.8PH ) pour enough water in the pots so the water runs out the bottom of the pot ...collect & test the PH of this runoff water....
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09-09-2007, 04:51 AM #5Senior Member
Early Flowering/Burning Tips
Hypanium peat meat usually runs at about 5.0 to 5.7. So it is acid. The Scotts Brand can vary across the country depending where they get there product. In the South where Southern Pine is predominant that is what they use and it is high acid: ie low ph . You need I would think to lower your water ph going in. Use a ph lower solution. Use some ph down solution.
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09-09-2007, 07:20 AM #6OPSenior Member
Early Flowering/Burning Tips
yeah I think my only hope is to transplant into better soil. Have you guys ever done that? I guess I'll just be real careful with the roots and the crappy soil will still be immediately around the rootball, but the roots could grow into the better soil after the process is done. Is that a plan?
Also I purposely avoided including the whole plant in the pic because it would throw off this current issue. The dead leaves you see below are from a corrected over-fert problem that existed before this fiasco with earthgro.
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09-10-2007, 04:35 AM #7Senior Member
Early Flowering/Burning Tips
Sure transplanting is not that hard to do. Keep a close watch on the ph though after you transplant.
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09-11-2007, 08:31 PM #8OPSenior Member
Early Flowering/Burning Tips
yeah I performed the transplant. Since the plant is in such bad shape, I wasn't as worried about shocking it with this method of transplanting to which I'm not accustomed. I used MG potting soil, which I know isn't the best, but I've always had good crops with it before, and the ph is going up. thanx to both of you for your attention
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09-11-2007, 09:01 PM #9Senior Member
Early Flowering/Burning Tips
I have one final suggestion, which is if you can find a product called Soil Syrup, it's humic acid, and buffers at about 6.8-6.9.
I really like using a dilute solution of this stuff to flush problem soils. No doubt you've still got some nasty dirt clinging to your roots. Use less than what the bottle recommends next time you flush.
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09-11-2007, 10:46 PM #10OPSenior Member
Early Flowering/Burning Tips
cool thanks. I wonder if inside sun carries it; I tend to order stuff like that online
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