Quote Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
I love the comparrisons to our "founding fathers". They were only 53 days away from the closest enemy by boat. The enemy we face today is much, much closer than people want to realize.

I wonder how G.W. (George Washington) and Congress would have reacted if the Brits had I.C.B.M.s with nuclear tips back in the day?

Have a good one!:s4:

So P4B are saying the current administration is justified in throwing certain aspects of the constitution to the wind when circumstances change? Constitutional amendments are at times necessary, but shit like the patriot act goes one step further and completley disregards the principles on which your country was founded. This administration is spying on its own people without warrants, arresting without warrants, holding prisoners without charge, and now declaring any enemy a terrorist organization whether it be actual terrorists, or just a legal national army.

Sorry man, while I respect you as a decent and intelligent person, wake up! The precedents set by your current administration have given the government power to stampede over any constitutional rights in the name of protection from terrorism. Do you remember when Bush had one of his "Bush moments" and said "any Iraqi soldier that fight's for Saddam will be considered a terrorist". He declared legal combatants terrorists because they dare fight the will of the infallable USA.
Gandalf_The_Grey Reviewed by Gandalf_The_Grey on . Troop Reduction Is Possible, Bush Says AL ASAD AIR BASE, Iraq, Sept. 3 â?? President Bush made a surprise eight-hour visit to Iraq on Monday, emphasizing security gains, sectarian reconciliation and the possibility of a troop withdrawal, thus embracing and pre-empting this monthâ??s crucial Congressional hearings on his Iraq strategy. His visit, with his commanders and senior Iraqi officials, had a clear political goal: to try to head off opponentsâ?? pressure for a withdrawal by hailing what he called recent successes in Iraq Rating: 5