Quote Originally Posted by Ganja Dude
How come every republican's comeback is something negative about the democrats? Most people who know politics know they are both equally as bad. All they do is divide the country.
I'd say both sides are equally guilty of attacking their opponent as a platform.

If the Iraq war was just and good then it would have more support.
Keeping weed illegal still has more support than those who want to legalize it. I wouldn't call popular opinion an accurate gauge for morality.



We don't need to be in the middle east.
We don't need to be in Iraq. I personally believe the Afghanistan invasion is justifiable and necessary. But to each his own.

If people really want to attack us taking down random people in the streets of baghdad isn't going to help.

Not only that, but it's massively increased terrorist recruitment. What do you expect when hundreds of thousands of people are killed, all who collectively have millions of friends and family who'd have damn good reason to hate the states post-invasion.

It's even proven now that Iraq had no WMD's which was the reason we went in anyhow.
It hasn't been proven, it's impossible to disprove something that doesn't exist really, and there is some suspicion that Saddam moved some weapons to Syria (not holding my breath on that one though). The problem is more that the Bush administration failed to provide sufficient evidence or proof that they were there. The invasion was harshly lacking in justification or evidence yet they jumped in anyway. I mean, why not? Just charge in, topple a dictator, be greeted as liberators, and America has a steady supply of oil, a buddy the middle east and 'ol George can proudly proclaim he brought freedom to the middle east.
They were still stuck in the mindset of wars being a matter of toppling governments. If that's all it took, as they thought it would, the invasion would have been a piece of cake.



This war isn't meant to be won, it's meant to be ongoing. I don't know why these people need more money and power. I barely have any money and power and I am very happy.
I think it's meant to be won, Bush just can't possibly admit a mistake and own up to the people, acknowledging the hopeless situation he's created. At this point though, pulling out pre-emptively would be disastrous. He's stuck the nation in Iraq like snot to a screen door, good job George!:thumbsup:



Bush is clearly not doing what the people of the United States want so how are we a democracy anymore? It seems much more like a dictatorship because although there are democratic processes, they don't seem to matter much anymore.
You're thinking of direct democracy, not the representative democracy most (if not all) nations have today. Foreign policy (and many other) decisions under our system are based on the people voting in candidates who most closely represent their views, not candidates who govern by popular opinion.

Bush does have a moral obligation to listen to the will of his people on this matter, but not a legal one.