911- Planned by US government???

[andruejaysin]

In order to get that kinda of distance on something so massively heavy like that, you need some heavy duty materials. ie bombs, which blow things awaaaayyyy. Read up if you feel like it. One of the few scientifical reports about that day that gives the facts. Stuff about the people who were in the building before that day. Why the top floors the towers was shut down at night only allowing a few "construction" workers in with no security cameras operating to see what they were doing.

What exactly would be the point of these bombs? The neo-conmen would have still gotten their war even if the buildings hadn't fallen.

[mfqr]

What exactly would be the point of these bombs? The neo-conmen would have still gotten their war even if the buildings hadn't fallen.

To leave an impression that will stay forever. The more people that die, the "better reason" to go to war. It's kind of like how we didn't go to war because of the 1993 bombing of the WTC. But bringing those towers down... nobody is going to forget that, and forget that "terrorists in the middle-east did it." It's psychological. They knew that when they made Osama a scapegoat for bringing the towers down and killing thousands of people, that the citizens would hate him so much. Just crashing a plane and killing a couple hundred people isn't enough for them.

[andruejaysin]

I'm also a little curious why they didn't blame it on saddam and say all the highjackers were from iraq. That's where they wanted to invade, framing bin laden doesn't make much sense. But I'm making rational arguments in the conspiracy forum, I should know better.

[mfqr]

I'm also a little curious why they didn't blame it on saddam and say all the highjackers were from iraq. That's where they wanted to invade, framing bin laden doesn't make much sense. But I'm making rational arguments in the conspiracy forum, I should know better.

Because they wanted to invade Afghanistan as well. Bin Laden is a scapegoat. They just wanted to get rid of Saddam for good, and control Iraq. But now they have two countries taken, and if they just blamed it on Saddam, they would need another reason to invade Afghanistan anyway. Also, if you think about it, Saddam would have easily been able to spread the truth that it was not him, if they blamed it on him in the first place. Bin Laden, in fact, was a CIA operative in the 1970s, and there are rumors that he still is in contact with the CIA and various rich families in the US. So it makes perfect sense that he would be used as a scapegoat, probably paid to "admit" it (remember, at first he denied it... but then he admitted it? that's strange, no?). Saddam would never do such a thing, because he hated the US, and our government hated him. He would do anything in his power to refute the false accusation of him doing it, like I said. I don't see how this is illogical. Perhaps you need to do a bit more research about 9/11, on the conspiracy side of it. I've done lots of research on both sides, and the non-conspiracy side just does no add up. It's pretty hard to make non-conspiracy arguments in a rational way, because it isn't rational, and doesn't make as much sense as the conspiracy side. Although I know you're not really arguing that, I'm just saying. You did bring up a good question, but now it's answered. Any more questions?

Just think... we go to kill "terrorists" in Afghanistan, right? Soon after, full attention was placed on Iraq. We have very small forces in Afghanistan, which was the original place to invade. Now we have like a hundred thousand troops in Iraq, because of "WMD's" that never were found, and the concept that Saddam was "harboring terrorists," which there was no proof found. The people in Iraq attacking our soldiers aren't terrorists. They're people defending their country as best as they can. They don't have the technology that we have, so they go to the good ol' suicide bombings. The agenda given to us was to invade one country, where they "thought" Osama was hiding in the mountains there. Nope... they never actually looked for him anyway, and I can promise you that. It's because he has ties with our government. Attention was blatantly shifted to Iraq.

And I am starting to think that the real agenda is to conquer the whole middle east. And, uhm, the whole world. Does the NWO ring a bell? The NWO could very well exist, and I am pretty sure it does. It's not like there are not people who are trying to conquer the world nowadays. Throughout history there has always been someone trying to conquer the world. The NWO (or I guess you could say The Illuminati) just uses different tactics.

[weightman092109]

something i thought was interesting:

terrorism

noun
the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear

[mfqr]

something i thought was interesting:

terrorism

noun
the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear

Yep...

[angry nomad]

I do not believe that 9/11 was an inside job because:

1. Bush isn't that smart.

2. It would be in the media.

3. It would be in the 9/11 Commission Report.

4. A government wouldn't do that to its people.

ALSO!!!!:

I have tried to use my cel phone while a plane was in the air. It ALWAYS works.

Of course kerosone doesn't get hot enough to melt steel, but it can blow it up! And the planes were turned into bombs.

The thermite came from the terrorists.

The terrorists who are "alive" are just other guys with the same name.

The plane it PA blew up when it hit the ground. Just like the plane that hit the Pentagon blew up. That is why there was nothing left. A suicide terrorist was flying it, not a pilot. Duh!

Osama bin Laden has nothing to do with the Carlyle Group and the Bush family or the CIA, HE IS A TERRORIST. Didn't you see his latest video?

Bush DID NOT walk around holding hands and kissing the King of Saud! That was all made up by the liberal media!

World Trade Center was not mentioned in the 9/11 Commission report because it doesn't matter. It wasn't destroyed by terrorists directly, and no one died. Thank God Guiliani got everyone out in time. So who cares?

Oh, and Rumsfeld has nothing to do with aspartame, btw. THAT is ridiculous.

[eg420ne]

Your sarcasm surpasses my sarcasm........by thousand folds^^^

[higher4hockey]

eg~ i love reading your posts , its like reading the funny pages.

[mfqr]

I do not believe that 9/11 was an inside job because:

1. Bush isn't that smart.

2. It would be in the media.

3. It would be in the 9/11 Commission Report.

4. A government wouldn't do that to its people.

1. Nobody said Bush was the sole person who planned it. In fact, it was a group of people. Probably included in this group would be the Bin Laden family.
2. It would not be in the media, because the media is controlled by a handful of men and women who almost always side with the government. It would _NEVER_ be.
3. No it wouldn't - the 9/11 commission never even had a chance to do a real investigation.
4. Sure they would, and they've done it in the past.

But maybe you're being sarcastic. If you're not, then there you go. If you are, then whatever :thumbsup:.

ALSO!!!!:

I have tried to use my cel phone while a plane was in the air. It ALWAYS works.

Cool.

Of course kerosone doesn't get hot enough to melt steel, but it can blow it up! And the planes were turned into bombs.

Obviously.

The thermite came from the terrorists.

The thermite came from the terrorists, which came from us.

The terrorists who are "alive" are just other guys with the same name.

Perhaps.

The plane it PA blew up when it hit the ground. Just like the plane that hit the Pentagon blew up. That is why there was nothing left. A suicide terrorist was flying it, not a pilot. Duh!

LOL.

Osama bin Laden has nothing to do with the Carlyle Group and the Bush family or the CIA, HE IS A TERRORIST. Didn't you see his latest video?

His latest video, where it is completely possible that all those groups you mentioned helped with it. LOLZ.

Bush DID NOT walk around holding hands and kissing the King of Saud! That was all made up by the liberal media!

LOL

World Trade Center was not mentioned in the 9/11 Commission report because it doesn't matter. It wasn't destroyed by terrorists directly, and no one died. Thank God Guiliani got everyone out in time. So who cares?

You mean WTC7, right? Yeah, it doesn't matter, because it blew up for absolutely no reason. And the lack of media on it probably means nothing. You're right, lolz, who cares.

Oh, and Rumsfeld has nothing to do with aspartame, btw. THAT is ridiculous.

He does? I didn't know that. Cool . Aspartame is bad.

I realized you're sarcastic in this post. At least the bottom part. The first part seemed serious, though.