yeah those big ass bbq lighters are fine but that's the problem, they are huge, don't exactly fit in my pocket real comfortably :/. But anyway, I guess I never thought bout taking the child proofing off the bic, cause I hate that, but other than that bics are sweet. I just might need a cricket for smoking outside, cause like I said, it blows out sometimes. thanks a lot for the responses guys, time to go smoke!