[QUOTE=F L E S H]Libertarian Toker:QUOTE]

"Just because I said Christianity is violent, doesn't mean I don't think Islam CAN be violent."

I didn't say what your implying I said or did. I said you were excusing islams violence, not claiming it didn't exist.

"What I'm saying is that Islamic terrorrists are about as religiously correct as David Koresh."

Naw, what you seemed to be saying was muslims are not so bad if ya compare them to christians. You parade your ignorence of muslims, and then do the very thing you claim Torog should not do, and that is to think you know the whole because you have met a few. I don't know about you, but in my book living in a country that is run by islam kind of spanks having a few muslim buddys in Canada.

"They are equally disturbed and both dangerously misinterpret the Bible or the Koran."

Yep, that's true enough.

"Maybe you should read something written about Islam that is NOT written by an American."

Maybe you should not assume I haven't.

" Don't you realize that politicians and their journalists will tell you exactly what you want to hear?"

I understand that a lot of people will do that. It is not confined to politicians and their journalists.

"So many people sadly think as you do"

And what is it that I think?

"and the media constantly reinforces their view by presenting it as fact."

Sorry, but it truely is a fact that islam is violent. Good grief man, wake up and smell the folgers. It's not the media, it's the muslims doing the reinforcing. If islam is not part of the violence, why does the majority not denounce the terroristic eliment in their ranks that use violence? Islam uses violence. If you can't see that, your blind.

"Think outside the box, buddy, you might be surprised at what you find out."

You may want to practice what you preach a little. Propaganda is not limited to just the right. You sound like so many others I have discussed this with. That leads me to believe that your all eating from the same dish. Mind control??? Propagation??? Who is and who isn't effected by it? Do you think your not? I can see the propagation in your words the same as you can it in Torog's. So what does that mean? Am I wrong, and you really do hold the actual truth?

Toker