If 9/11 was not planned, explain this..

[jakez]

NOTE: if you are the typical brainwashed ignorant American, there is nothing to see here, move along.

N. Rockefeller 11 months before Sept. 11th 2001 talking to Aaron Russo:

"There's going to be an event Aaron.. ..we are going to go into Afghanistan.. ..we are going to go into Iraq.. ..and we are going to go into Venezuela.. ..and there's going to be people looking for men in caves (giggling) that they are never going to find.. ..by having this war on terror you can never win it, it's the eternal war so you can always keep taking people's liberties away"

Aaron asks how are they going to convince the people this war is real and he says:

"The media can convince everybody that it's real, you keep talking about it and saying things over and over and eventually these people start to believe it".

This is one of the most people in the world saying these things. Pretty scary.

jakez Reviewed by jakez on 08-26-2007. If 9/11 was not planned, explain this.. NOTE: if you are the typical brainwashed ignorant American, there is nothing to see here, move along. N. Rockefeller 11 months before Sept. 11th 2001 talking to Aaron Russo: "There's going to be an event Aaron.. ..we are going to go into Afghanistan.. ..we are going to go into Iraq.. ..and we are going to go into Venezuela.. ..and there's going to be people looking for men in caves (giggling) that they are never going to find.. ..by having this war on terror you can never win it, it's the Rating: 5

[mfqr]

Yep, read this stuff before. I believe it.

[Zimzum]

So you assume Arron to be truthful as well? No hidden anarchist agenda perhaps? Always question authority taken to new heights? Maybe I'm missing the actual interview, but all I can find is Arron being interviewed by Alex Jones. If thats the case then this "confession" by Nick was nothing more than hearsay and pointless.

[Humboldt215]

NOTE: if you are the typical brainwashed ignorant American, there is nothing to see here, move along.

N. Rockefeller 11 months before Sept. 11th 2001 talking to Aaron Russo:

"There's going to be an event Aaron.. ..we are going to go into Afghanistan.. ..we are going to go into Iraq.. ..and we are going to go into Venezuela.. ..and there's going to be people looking for men in caves (giggling) that they are never going to find.. ..by having this war on terror you can never win it, it's the eternal war so you can always keep taking people's liberties away"

Aaron asks how are they going to convince the people this war is real and he says:

"The media can convince everybody that it's real, you keep talking about it and saying things over and over and eventually these people start to believe it".

This is one of the most people in the world saying these things. Pretty scary.

Do you actually believe that? cmon

I give that as much weight as the democrats saying "lets knock down some towers and building 7, blow up the pentagon, invade afghanistan & iraq so we (democrats) can get in power during next election then we can stay there for 20 yrs saying we are un-doing the republican war machine"

Alot of the 9/11 has been debunked and no longer brought up by the 9/11 people, like the missile hitting the trade towers, or the explosives placed by the govt, which was supposedly proven by puffs of smoke exiting windows when the towers collapsed (several floors below the actualy collapsing structure) or the theory that the planes were radio controlled by a "black op" and crashed into the towers, while the original hijackers knew nothing about it. Then again the pilot who hit the pentagon, how he coulnt have done it (he had over 200 hrs flight training and all he had to do was a 330 degree turn into a building)

I can appreciate questioning authority, no way am I going to be a blind sheep but this 9/11 conspiracy stuf (in my opinion) is just that.. conspiracy theories, much like the bombing of pearl harbor to get US into WW2, or US setting a mine to blow up the
U.S.S. Maine in Cuba starting the spanish-american war. (hope I got the name of the ship correct).

If this was all orchestrated for the "neo-cons" and Bush' oil profits wouldnt he have made himself look like a hero instead of wondering what was happening as he read school books to children in florida? Wouldnt he have emerged as a strong leader and taken immediate control, instead of the process we went through?

Again if this was inside job, lots of people would have had to be in on it, by now somebody would have talked.. or did they get killed by special agents to keep things quiet?

Makes for good story books though, and entertaining reading.

[mfqr]

Do you actually believe that? cmon

I give that as much weight as the democrats saying "lets knock down some towers and building 7, blow up the pentagon, invade afghanistan & iraq so we (democrats) can get in power during next election then we can stay there for 20 yrs saying we are un-doing the republican war machine"

Alot of the 9/11 has been debunked and no longer brought up by the 9/11 people, like the missile hitting the trade towers, or the explosives placed by the govt, which was supposedly proven by puffs of smoke exiting windows when the towers collapsed (several floors below the actualy collapsing structure) or the theory that the planes were radio controlled by a "black op" and crashed into the towers, while the original hijackers knew nothing about it. Then again the pilot who hit the pentagon, how he coulnt have done it (he had over 200 hrs flight training and all he had to do was a 330 degree turn into a building)

I can appreciate questioning authority, no way am I going to be a blind sheep but this 9/11 conspiracy stuf (in my opinion) is just that.. conspiracy theories, much like the bombing of pearl harbor to get US into WW2, or US setting a mine to blow up the
U.S.S. Maine in Cuba starting the spanish-american war. (hope I got the name of the ship correct).

If this was all orchestrated for the "neo-cons" and Bush' oil profits wouldnt he have made himself look like a hero instead of wondering what was happening as he read school books to children in florida? Wouldnt he have emerged as a strong leader and taken immediate control, instead of the process we went through?

Again if this was inside job, lots of people would have had to be in on it, by now somebody would have talked.. or did they get killed by special agents to keep things quiet?

Makes for good story books though, and entertaining reading.

Sorry to say this, but the 9/11 conspiracies have not been debunked. And I believe that any debunking that occured was either purposeful spreading of misinformation, accidental spreading of misinformation, or just people who could not believe that their nation was attacked by anyone other than radical islamic extremists.

Honestly, I do not believe that our government actually did it. What I believe is that the actual people that are in power did it. Our nation is no longer the real nation. What Rockefellar said is true. Our liberties are slowly being taken away under the guise of "security." Patriot Act, for instance. While it has not been used to harass any ordinary citizens, it is entirely possible for it to be done under the protection of the Patriot Act. RFID chips - which is not conspiracy theory, it has been announced to be coming out (Sometime in 2008, I heard, the act for these chips will become active, supposedly). The North American Union, which wants to create an entirely new country by combining Canada, Mexico, and the U.S.. Again, under the guise of security, and also under the guise of prosperity. All these things spawned from a supposed attack from "radical islamic extremists." While it could have entirely been done by these terrorists, I would have no doubt that it was funded by the international bankers who can profit off of war. There's a thread about the 9/11 conspiracy on International Cannagraphic, which actually shows documented evidence of all of the planning involved in it, and not from Osama Bin Laden, or anybody like that. In fact, if you've done your research, you will realize that Osama Bin Laden was actually a CIA operative during the time that he was fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan. Could he possibly have been paid off to admit that he did it (of course, after he denied doing the attacks)?

Also, the impact on The Pentagon was clearly not from a plane. No plane debris was found on the site, and there was a leaked video published quite awhile ago (the only camera that was not deactivated before the attacks, iirc) that clearly showed that it was not a plane that hit the pentagon. It clearly looked like a missile, or something of that nature. Would there really be a reason to claim it was a plane when it was not, if there was nothing to hide?

I totally believe that this war was setup on purpose, to purposely go into Afghanistan and Iraq. People profit off of wars like this, you must realize that. It allows our country to spread our power, our sphere of influence. It allows us to setup bases around the globe, and thus more power is gained. This is not a conspiracy theory, there's much evidence that shows this to be an "inside job." And while I don't think that our actualy *government* planned it, I do believe that they knew about it... and that the international bankers (the rockefellars, for instance) actually concocted this horrible tragedy.

This is not the U.S.A. "land of the free" anymore. Do not be fooled. Woodrow Wilson even wrote about this stuff. About how he made a mistake by signing the bill which stated that there could be a central bank which was privately owned by international bankers. They control our money, not our government. Control of money means control of everything. That part is proven fact (the central bank being owned by private bankers), and that once one has control of the flow of money, that person (or those people) has the ability to control everything.

[jamstigator]

According to South Park, 25 percent of the U.S. population does believe this stuff. Pretty crazy. But there's probably 25 percent of the population that believes just about anything. Hell, 25 percent of the population thinks Bush has done a grand job these last 6 or so years. That's even more incredible.

[Humboldt215]

well shit, if southpark says its true, imma jump on the bandwagon


wow


I am hoping you were being sarcastic, you cant have smoked so much to believe what ya see on southpark :P

[jakez]

Once you turn that little chip in your head off you start to realize all of these things "nutjobs" are saying are actually true, but your thought process is brought up so biased that it just sounds incredibly ridiculous to you before even giving it a second thought. I told my friend today that I found out you can dramatically improve your vision through eye exercises, and instead of his response being "Oh my god, that's crazy all these people spend money on new glasses all the time" he says "bunch of hippie shit". Ignorance.

So you assume Arron to be truthful as well? No hidden anarchist agenda perhaps? Always question authority taken to new heights? Maybe I'm missing the actual interview, but all I can find is Arron being interviewed by Alex Jones. If thats the case then this "confession" by Nick was nothing more than hearsay and pointless.

Yes, behind the Grammy, Tony, and Emmy award winning director, the numerous Oscars and Golden Globe awards his films have generated, and who helped create such legends as Led Zeppelin, The Who, Janis Joplin, The Grateful Dead, and Jefferson Airplane is a crazy fucking nutjob who wants absolutely no government whatsoever (definition of anarchy). Who are you Mr. Bush himself you fucking retard? So quick to discredit this mans word. Who the hell are you?

Edit: wow, I just found out Aaron Russo died 3 days ago, Jesus Christ they are killing them fast these days.. Watch out Charlie Sheen (another person supporting the 9/11 conspiracies).

[jamstigator]

I'm not biased. I've read all the evidence related to these conspiracy theories. None of them seem credible to me. The 'Bush planned it' theory seems the least credible. Not because he's not evil enough, but because he'd have to be the smartest person ever born to pull off the biggest conspiracy in human history and still have it kept quiet. And I don't happen to believe Bush is the smartest person ever born; the evidence for that is abundant.

And yes, I was being facetious with the South Park comment. If you've watched the episode, they didn't phrase it quite as kindly as I did. I believe the way they stated it was, 25 percent of Americans are retards. Heh.

[eg420ne]

Nothing to see here folks, go back to sleep, obey..Yup lets not look at bush regime hindering any real investigation into 911...Ohhh them outrageous conspiracy nutts......Lets not think about Who warn them High Level Pentagon Officials not to fly out on 911, nope lets not....Yup lets not worry about them Put Options they went away faster then a speeding crack-head....Ohhhhh Condi we're still waiting for that proof........Yupppers lets not worry about how bush made the FBI stop searching for Bin-laden & alCIAduh months b4 9-11.....Hey! how did bush see that first plane hit anyways..

Its tooo bad we dont have an honest government. maybe i couldve believe every word, wait i did believe at first, ohh how time changes you....

just sayin y'all, theres soo much questions, and the bush regime back-slapped everyone who dares to ask....this is not a real government, you think endless war, the patriot act is the answer, i think not.....the next terrorist attack is around the bend to justify martial law