How were you created?

[Hardcore Newbie]

There are only 2 choices, either there is a divine creator, or there isn't. The wager appeals to as many people as possible, the more rational person places his bet on God, realising that serving the Lord serves the self interest, which everyone shares, because there is promise of the afterlife.

Again, that's assuming that God wants or requires your worship. What if God despised your worship? It's not such a definite "yes or no" gamble, as you're trying to state. Believing that there is a God, is completely different than saying that you believe God has an afterlife for people who worship It.

If there is a God, that doesn't automatically mean that you get to heaven, even assuming that you've met what you perceive as the requirements. What you perceive as requirements may in reality be quite different to what the actual requirements are, again assuming It's set up such an afterlife in the first place.

More people believing means more people believe, it doesn't make them right or wrong because we know God can't be definitively proven or disproven. You don't bet on God out of fear but out of love and faith and rationality when you comprehend what athiesm offers you holisticly.

Just to be clear, I'm not an atheist. I'm agnostic. I'm claiming ignorance. I'm not betting at all, I refused to play the game in the first place. Now that in itself may be a bet at the wheel, but it's got the exact same odds as the bet that you're making.

Who knows, maybe you get to place your bet after the wheel has been spun (after death, in case that wasn't clear), so to speak. So "rationally", as you like to put it, I may actually have the best chance of receiving a good afterlife.

Athiests can be as moral as christians. The bible isn't the be all, end all. It's a lot of things. It gives wisdom and advice about moraility. Every choice we make, we make alone, God does not make it for us nor does another man. We are condemned to freedom and therefore responsible for our actions. I don't think pre marital sex is wrong, i don't have to believe that to think i and the universe was created.

If you believe the world was created, so be it. I've wouldn't want to argue that viewpoint. It's when you go beyond that single viewpoint that I call things into question. I hope you can see in this post that I'm arguing the philosophies you present that you believe this creator would posses, and saying that you have the rational conclusion, when it seems you haven't thought things out nearly enough.