How were you created?

[Hardcore Newbie]

I believe that the deepest reality is spirituality. We can live on a physical level, and even on an intellectual level, and miss it completely. They physical is the level of the body, the intellectual is the level of the mind. But the spiritual is the level of the heart, that core capacity we all have where thought and feeling and will all come together.

I equate the spiritual with the emotional. If you think I'm wrong, that's fine, but we live for each other. Extended isolation is considered the cruelest of punishments. When we send people to jail for murder, you'd think that the best thing would be to keep bad people away from each other, but no, that's too cruel. People get lonely when they have no other murderers and rapists to talk to. We live for each other's company.

If you bet on athiesm and win, then what do you win? Not much.

Did you even read my last post?

It's entirely as conceivable that there is a God that wants people to realize morals on their own, rather than through fear. God may or may not punish anyone based on their beliefs if such a God exists.

So being right and having the "winning" bet might be two different things. Who says there isn't a "heaven" that accepts moral atheists and the like?

Perhaps any sense pleasures that you indulged yoursefl in within the confines of this life that you would have avoided for moral reasons if you had been making the contrary bet.

I take deep issue with this. Not listneing to the bible is NOT equal to no morals. I'm not going to do something I consider immoral because I'm an atheist. I might do something that the Bible considers immoral, because the Bible isn't the be all and end all to morality. There is nothing immoral about premarital sex. The only argument against it is "the bible said so". That's not a very good argument in my eyes.

But, in the end, you wouldn't know that you won. So you won't even have the pleasure of knowing you were right.

And again, there are more than two bets. Did you retain any information about my last post at all? How can you make a good bet when you only see two of the near-infinite amount of choices? Not that my bet's any better, but I can tell you that I see many more than just two choices.