How were you created?

[GraziLovesMary]

I coallesced into existence some 3.4 million years ago from hydrogen and oxygen.

[LA.Jgirl]

Whoa I reckon Iâ??m going to have to smoke a bit before I can join this conversation. Glad I found this place. Good ADULT conversation. On the other message boards that I am a member of must of the conversations seem to revolve around stupid childish mess, and most of the posters are adults. This topic is something I have thought long and hard about.

[40oz]

really anything worth using was crafted by people, and with out manipulation of diffrent things nothing would exist. so wrong again as usual, cause it takes something with a brain or higher knowledge to try diffrent things out or there would still be just trees and rocks.so from the way u believe if we wait long enough buildings will build them selfs like humans evolved into them selfs right i mean if u wait long enough the food will cook it's self too i bet the bottom line is if sumthing with a higher knowledge does'nt manipulate "matter" meaning god then none of this would be here now.name 1 thing that man has not touched that has advanced humans foward in anyway??

This post is a disaster for your argument. First off, trees and plants are very complex organisms, and since you seem to be able to grasp the idea that they are the offspring of the earth there should be no problem seeing how humans came from the same place.

Your examples to try to make hardcore newb look dumb actually sort of make you look dumb. Buildings and food are not living organisms so they will never in millions of years be able to build themselves or cook themselves.

I think the belief in god is a by-product of our powerful brains. Humans are so smart that they are able to stop and think "what am I doing here? What is this for?" No other animal (as far as I know) has this ability. They all just live and keep on living.

I think this is the same reason only humans commit suicide. Our brains can comprehend what life is to the point that we realize we don't have to live, and we don't have to push forward. Animals, who act mostly on instincts and cannot think about their lives introspectively don't realize this. All they know is that they are alive and they want to stay that way.

So when humans need a way to explain why we are here and how we are here, the idea of an all powerful god who created us seems to answer those questions fairly easily.

[jdmarcus59]

just to prove that us christian also have a sence of humor, let me say this.............................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..................and thats all I got to say about that.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

i had a sense of humor, it was my 8'th sense.

everyone has a 6'th sense, it's called communication.

my 7'th sense was, and now it isnt.

but i dont know what.

[Hardcore Newbie]

This post is a disaster for your argument. First off, trees and plants are very complex organisms, and since you seem to be able to grasp the idea that they are the offspring of the earth there should be no problem seeing how humans came from the same place.

Your examples to try to make hardcore newb look dumb actually sort of make you look dumb. Buildings and food are not living organisms so they will never in millions of years be able to build themselves or cook themselves.

I think the belief in god is a by-product of our powerful brains. Humans are so smart that they are able to stop and think "what am I doing here? What is this for?" No other animal (as far as I know) has this ability. They all just live and keep on living.

I think this is the same reason only humans commit suicide. Our brains can comprehend what life is to the point that we realize we don't have to live, and we don't have to push forward. Animals, who act mostly on instincts and cannot think about their lives introspectively don't realize this. All they know is that they are alive and they want to stay that way.

So when humans need a way to explain why we are here and how we are here, the idea of an all powerful god who created us seems to answer those questions fairly easily.

Palerider seems to have a grudge with everyone that disagrees with him on anything, i honestly don't even bother reading his posts anymore.

I did read it in the quote tho, and i was amusing.

Food can't cook itself? Ever heard of a fire? An animal just needs to be dead and near fire to cook itself, maybe even alive.

Dwellings exist naturally as well (caves)

And catapults even exist in nature, by chance. Do I expect to see houses build themselves? No. But if we live in an infinite universe, then of course it's possible. If you disagree, then you have no understanding of what the word infinite means.

name 1 thing that man has not touched that has advanced humans foward in anyway??

how can something "advance" humankind if we don't touch or use it?

[Hardcore Newbie]

How was the universe and humanity created except for God? Has it been here forever? Has humanity? What was before the big bang? It seems illogical that i was simply thrown into existence, on a whim, on a chance.

You've gone from making faulty step by step conclusions to this? I guess if there are no steps, there's less to pick apart

And I'm just curious, why is it that if you are not created by god, then you are thrown into existence? it seems to me to be created by god just as aptly describes the action of being thrown into existence. What if god decided that he wanted to make popples instead of peoples because he wanted a laugh? Wait, maybe that's why he did create us :P

[Reefer Rogue]

The thing is, i've given many arguements, logical ones in my opinion, as to why i believe there is a God. It's easy to criticize but it's a lot harder to propose your own theory isn't it?

Being created and thrown into existence are two different ideas. One is saying I was created by a divine being and explains how i am here today. The other is saying that it is by chance i am here and really explains nothing imo. I used those words carefully in my poll because they are the words of athiest existentialist Sartre and notions from Kierkegard, whom i disagree with on this respect but agree with others.

[Hardcore Newbie]

The thing is, i've given many arguements, logical ones in my opinion, as to why i believe there is a God. It's easy to criticize but it's a lot harder to propose your own theory isn't it?

You know what's easier? admitting that you don't know and just think about it. Remembering that you don't know, and that you (nor anyone else) probably never will. Discussing what you don't know as a matter of opinion, and not a matter of fact. And have some fun conversations with those that do not agree, but have no facts either. Just a collection of ideas to share with each other, and burning some herb.

Yes, I'm very high right now, this shit gets me thinking sometimes

Being created and thrown into existence are two different ideas. One is saying I was created by a divine being and explains how i am here today. The other is saying that it is by chance i am here and really explains nothing imo. I used those words carefully in my poll because they are the words of athiest existentialist Sartre and notions from Kierkegard, whom i disagree with on this respect but agree with others.

I have no idea who those guys are, but the idea I get of creation is *POOF* magically appearing. Kind of a silly sight

[Reefer Rogue]

I know i don't know for a fact there is a God, what i propose is rationally philosophy as to explain why i think my beliefs are justified. However, i do not have to justify my beliefs to myself, I know what i believe and am content in life. Some may see the idea of creation as silly, yet i think a lack of creation is silly, lol. We can only continue to ponder until death, which all men face, no matter how rich or poor. This is inevitable. For the athiests, what is the meaning to life, why and more importantly how are we here? I've said it before but believing in God is believing that there is meaning to life, i completely reject nihilism.