Quote Originally Posted by JunkYard
I can go with most of what you say, only the language bothers me. Christ was the manifestation of God's spirit; I get that. The fullness of deity dwelt within Him bodily; I get that. The son of man, son of God, I get that too. Only, the son of God was just that, the "son" of God. Can you separate "Christ" from Jesus; yes! He did it, and so can we. Can you separate God from Christ; yes. He did it, so can we. Jesus never exalted himself, but always sought to glorify the father. I imagine that when people worshiped him, they worshiped the Father within...not the image of the man!

Tell me, are you what you look like? Is your appearance you, or are you something else? Our bodies are images, PTS but they are not who we are. We are much more than our shells. We are defined by our characters, qualities, and spirit.

When I die, I pray God I'm not remembered by what I look like, lol. I pray I will be remembered by my contributions, my character, my inner qualities, and by the spirit I walked in. This is where God is in us, and we in God. All and in all through his spirit.

Jesus is Lord, or [Master] but he is not God himself; Christ was the essence of God, but only by the indwelling of God's spirit. Jesus was a Vessel, but not the father himself, only a full representation of the father "inwardly".

God's spirit is God's Word; Christ carried His Word to the cross. God raised Jesus from the Grave and several days later, he ascended to sit at the right hand of the father.

That's the beauty of salvation. A son of man exalted to such a level is not a thing to overlook. If he were infact God, our faith is in vain (IMO) Jesus conquered his human attributes through God's spirit, and we are to follow in his footsteps. He did not leave us comfortless, he is recieving us to himslef daily.

The Bible is fairly clear about who christ was, and about his relationship with the Father.

God is the source, all things radiate from God. God's spirit is God's essence, and Christ was the manifestation of God's essence. All of which share a common bond . . .


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If you lack understand of who he is, I can't make you understand it. Understanding comes from above. All I will leave you with is that Jesus was killed cause he claimed to be God. They said, that Jesus as a man, claimed to be God and they did not believe him. So they killed him for blasphemy. Sorry to say it Junk, I link you with those that put him to the cross. You would be in agreement with them to kill him cause you don't believe that he is God. By their law, he had to die cause he claimed to be God himself. Any other man that would be killed for claiming to be God would be fitting, but not Jesus cause he wasn't a liar. Jesus is LORD.