Small SOG - questions, help!

[turtle420]

Some thoughts...

1st-- COOL SoG!!

2nd-- Watering... just two cents:::
When I watered my mothers, they where inside a narrow, long cabinet.
So what I did, was I got my self (1) a pitcher, a (2) funnel, and a (3) piece of tubing.
Just plug the tubing (1.5-2 feet) into the funnel... and you place the end at the pot (base of the plant maybe?), and just pour away into into the funnel with the pitcher. Hope that helps.

3rd-- Out of curiosity... do you ever rotate your plants? Like, move the ones on the edges to the inside? Just wondering... to get a more complete picture of your grow.

4th-- PS: cture::: Damn man. Cool math on post #5.
Would you happen to have some links with information?
Or maybe you could write up something?
How much does a 600W HPS put out?

Nice grow JamS!
I'm with SmokinBuds21... I say you flower.

Best Wishes,

-turtle420
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[jamstigator]

Thanks for the funnel idea, Turtle! I kept looking for one single unit that would accomplish that, but hadn't found anything. It didn't occur to me to connect several different units together to make what I need. I often see the trees, and miss the forest.

I do not rotate the plants. While that's a good idea, and I would like to, it doesn't look feasible - the plants' side branches are all intertwined in each other, and I'd probably damage them pulling them out and moving them around. Plus, I think they're all kinda relying on each other for support, so if I pulled 3 or 4 out, the whole thing might collapse on itself. Lol!

Oh, and they are in flowering, day 34 today. I'm not gonna sweat the yield; it'll be what it'll be. This was just a learning experiment. Whatever I pull out of there, I'll be happy with that. At least now I know why they bushed all out, and I know what I need to do if I do another SOG grow. Which I might, because it's really nice to basically skip the entire veg process and go straight from clones to flowering.

[turtle420]

Glad the funnel idea helped.
They say necessity is the mother of invention.
We growers are unstoppable.

RE: SoG... it looks like a solid forrest.
You should get some action figures and do some battle scenes in there.
Post some pics up of the battle in JamS' Chewbacca World. :p

I'm with you... I think SoG is "clones with roots" --> 12/12
But still! Learning experiences are always good.
Thanks for the updates JamS.
Glad to know it's going well.

[HARDDON]

About to complete their 5th week in flower and still no large flowers yet?????

At this point you should have you flower buds well established and they should be everywhere.

Anyhow, if you SOG it, you want a 3 week veg period. Even shorter if you used clones.

Looks to me like you vegged too long...and...looks like they are still in veg. I just don't see the flowers. Maybe its the pic...but I would be looking for established flowers at this point.

To cut down on the growth, I would switch to 14/10 flower cycle.

Nice setup though!

[xxxhazexxx]

they are to tall for sea sog you are supposed to flower clones from when they root 4-6" tall then you wind up with 1-2 zs per clone 100 clones per sqm

[jamstigator]

I flowered 24 clones (the plants you see) when they were 3 inches tall, with no veg period. So, I don't think I veg'd em too long, nor let them get too big before flowering, unless 3 inches tall is too large.

[jamstigator]

1-2 ounces per plant, with 100 plants per square meter? So, about 8 or 9 pounds per square meter? I'd like to see some pics of *that*!

[HARDDON]

I'd be more concerned with the lack of flower buds than I would anything. If they are in week 5 of flower, you got some problems with that batch.

Where are the flowers?

You took 3" clones and tried to flower without any veg period?????

How then did they root? You rooted in flower phase????

Something is not right here....

[jamstigator]

Well, technically I gave them 2 days between the cloning machine and 12/12, to spread their roots and get over any transplant shock. The root systems were quite developed when I took them out of the machine. I gave them a good 10-12 days in there. So 10-12 days in the cloner, and 2 days of aftershock, then boom, 12/12. I gave them so little time, because I was a might scared they'd get too large, especially considering there are 24 of them. And I had another reason to fear that - I tried this with 6 plants and gave them five days between cloner and 12/12 and they're even larger than these.

Flowers are showing up. Not as far along as the 6 'introductory test' plants were at this day into flowering, but not hugely behind either. And those 6 are turning out pretty nice, getting pretty crystally, buds not too small, about what I expected really, aside from the fact that they're three feet tall. Those 6 got 5 days of veg time and were maybe 4 inches tall when flowering began. Could be that those 3 days of veg time difference (these = 2 days, others = 5 days) set these 24 behind a bit, because they had to do more root work during flowering than the other 6 did. If that delays harvest a few days, no big deal. I'm sure the trichs will tell me when they're done.

It's pretty interesting anyway!

[jamstigator]

Here's a couple of pics of one of the plants in the first batch of 6 that I tried SOG with. I took this a few days ago, day 4X of flowering, probably around day 45 or so. The other pic is NYC Diesel in the manufacturer's packaging -- that's what I intend to put into this cabinet next. Not sure whether that'll be SOG or ScroG. Probably the latter because I probably don't have enough developed mothers to take quite enough cuttings for another 24-plant SOG experiment.

Not a ton of buds, but I bet it was a half ounce when I took the pic. They're heavier/fuller now, more crystallized. But even then they weren't disastrously bad. I considered them bonus plants, because I just put them in the pathway between two ScroG screens, where normally I have nothing growing.