Oh and by the way.. For Scale.. Stan the tall one stands about 6'2" at her highest point and has just started flowers and Ollie is about 4'6" and 5 foot across.. and just started flower also but Stans a bit faster on the bud... The Scrogs are very skunky so my guess they are both Sativas .. and are about 9 feet by 4 foot size of the wire top of the scrog..