First Grow, 500$ and a dream

**JoeSchmoe** · 08-27-2007, 02:30 AM

YAh zcomp i think your right about the cfl's. I have the hose hooked up to the bathroom fan. it has a nice 4inch exhaust port that fits perfectly on the hose. I then lay the hose length wise infront of my seedlings as shown. Im going to switch my seedlings over to the HPS here in afew days. If i hook the hose right up to the HPS hood i can cool the bulb directly which I hope will lower the temps in my wardrobe.I will loose the direct cooling on the plants though, which can strengthen the stocks of the plants, but the temps are probably more important.

**JoeSchmoe** · 08-27-2007, 03:06 AM

I have noticed a wierd yellowing on the tips of afew of my seedlings, im not exactly sure what it is. I have been picking the seed shells off my seedling when the emerged from the soil. Would this cause it to turn yellow at the tips?

[img=http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/9/8/26/f_IMG0112m_473c8e4.jpg]

[img=http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/9/8/26/f_IMG0117m_79ed900.jpg]

[img=http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/9/8/26/f_IMG0115m_f1a69a4.jpg]

So so far i have two great looking seedlings, 2 ok looking seedlings, and one scrawny seedling

**JoeSchmoe** · 08-29-2007, 11:14 AM

well its been one week since I planted my seedlings, and so far 4 out of 5 seem to have made it. Between dreading coming home to a flaming house, I have gone to the hardware store. I have now over doubled my lumens of Lighting, since i was not satisfied with the level of growth. After the first 12 hours of the new lighting they really started to move.

This is what my new grow area looks like.

[img=http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/9/8/29/f_IMG0130m_647f4cd.jpg]

These are my two best seedlings, man I hope they are female.

[img=http://img35.picoodle.com/img/img35/9/8/29/f_IMG0132m_2334eee.jpg]

[img=http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/9/8/29/f_IMG0131m_f665640.jpg]

I have orderd a PH/ Moisture meter so i can keep track of the soil PH. Im still having issues with the heat so I have had to put a large ossilating fan infront of the door. since im still paranoid of a fire, even though the closet is wired very well, I set it to 18/6 day night timer. So The thing is only running for 4-6 hours while im not there. As I get more confident , I will move the timer back to 24hours eventually i guess. Im not sure when i should start feeding my plants nutes, or when i will be able to tell the sexes.

**Zcomp** · 08-29-2007, 04:20 PM

That should be plenty of light. Also I noticed your using a combo of 2 cool and 6 warm

.
I did the opposite during veg(6Cool & 2Warm) so I'll be interested to see how this turns out.
If your like me then when you get to your grow you feel all the wires and transformers or ballasts to see how hot there actually getting.
I think that I read on this forum to start nutes at the 4th or 5th set of leaves, But some people start earlier. Always start weak and move up slowly.

**ismokealldaylong420** · 08-29-2007, 08:45 PM

hey im back and im sticking with you all the way. those little round leves at the bottom always died on me no matter what i did so i wouldnt worry about those little round leaves whatever they are called and you couldnt of over fertilized em yet have you i hope you didnt add any ferts to it yet i dont think you will have to unless they get like 5 feet but i dont know how tall your going to grow em also are you going to do sog scrog or just grow em regular they look aliite stretched could you tell me the strain and try and post pics as much as possibile

**JoeSchmoe** · 08-31-2007, 08:22 AM

Well I got some more pictures of my babies. I have named all four of them. They all look great, and are really growing fast. I have my heat problem under control somewhat. I raised the lights 2 inches farther from my plants and the surface temp is now a even 82F. Ismoke the plants are mostly indica but there is some sativa in this strain. Its called Flying Dutchman Royal orange. I did add some ferts, but i diluted them very very weak. I added 1/10th of the bottle strenth and only squirted quarter of a cup per seedling. They seem to really have enjoyed it since they started growing even more vigously once the nutes were added and the light were raised. I think i might try and vege them the whole way with CFL before i add in my Compressed sodium light. Hell I might even add both if i can control the heat. My fifth plant officially died, dunno was just probably a dud. But I planted another seed in its place. I took some pictures witha microscope just for fun.

Grow area

[img=http://img35.picoodle.com/img/img35/9/8/31/f_IMG0133m_a638443.jpg]

This is john he is my best plant so far

[img=http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/9/8/31/f_IMG0134m_7ad7df4.jpg]

This is Paul

[img=http://img38.picoodle.com/img/img38/9/8/31/f_IMG0135m_ad3145b.jpg]

George

[img=http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/9/8/31/f_IMG0136m_660c97a.jpg]

Ringo

[img=http://img40.picoodle.com/img/img40/9/8/31/f_IMG0137m_880bfa2.jpg]

Here a magnified picture of John, I thought it looked cool. You can see how healthy he is.

[img=http://img35.picoodle.com/img/img35/9/8/31/f_IMG0139m_9ab0acb.jpg]

Next update in 4 days

**Ryno** · 09-01-2007, 06:11 PM

Lookin Brilliant man!!

Im gonna have to start my log up soon i think

i am a bit worried about my seedlings though theyre about 3 inches tall already in just 5 days ive tried to lower the lamp as much as poss still giving equal amounts of light but seem to be strechin a bit still o well could jsut be the strain

How long in are you now?

good luck!

**JoeSchmoe** · 09-04-2007, 12:28 AM

Well its going on day 10 of my grow and so far The plants are looking really good. Except im getting worried about some deformed leaves and yellowing on the tip of some of them. Im not sure what its from or what it could be. The temps in my closet over between 78- 90 but there usually around 86. I have added a very tiny amount of nutrients to the soil and gave them a good watering afterwards. They are now on a full 24 hour cycle.

Heres pictures of the yellowing zoomed in 15x high res. and the picture of the deformed leafs.

[img=http://img40.picoodle.com/img/img40/9/9/3/f_IMG0143m_595c4aa.jpg]

[img=http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/9/9/3/f_IMG0142m_a7620e9.jpg]

This yellowing is exactly the same on two of my other plants. The deformed leaves also are on the same plants.

John

[img=http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/9/9/3/f_IMG0147m_740f2e6.jpg]

Paul

[img=http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/9/9/3/f_IMG0146m_16b951b.jpg]

George

[img=http://img38.picoodle.com/img/img38/9/9/3/f_IMG0145m_de65fed.jpg]

Ringo'

[img=http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/9/9/3/f_IMG0144m_e9a6c03.jpg]

My newest seedling just burst out of nowhere and looks like the healthiest so far!!
I named him pewee

[img=http://img38.picoodle.com/img/img38/9/9/3/f_IMG0148m_51547b9.jpg]

Heres a full cab picture

[img=http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/9/9/3/f_IMG0149m_b7d1589.jpg]

**JoeSchmoe** · 09-09-2007, 08:29 AM

Well its been 17 days now since the first seedlings broke the surface of the soil, and the progress has been amazing. I came close to killing my best plant with nutes, foolishly ignoring the advice i read all over the board about giving seedlings nutes. I learned my lesson and after two small flushes of 3 of my plants, they are once again as healthy as possible. With the onset of autum the temperatures in my cabinet have dropped a hardy 7 degress to a cool 80 with the doors closed. I have stopped worrying about them and now I just let them do there thing without me poking watering nuting and disturbing them.

Here are the pictures

John
[img=http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/9/9/9/f_IMG0358m_a756e44.jpg]

Paul
[img=http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/9/9/9/f_IMG0360m_c05ada4.jpg]

George
[img=http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/9/9/9/f_IMG0361m_1bc7da8.jpg]

Ringo
[img=http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/9/9/9/f_IMG0359m_765e708.jpg]

Pewee
[img=http://img38.picoodle.com/img/img38/9/9/9/f_IMG0362m_b21d872.jpg]

**Zcomp** · 09-09-2007, 04:43 PM

Sorry about your close call. I noticed that nute burn on your tips. I did mine till they showed slight nute burn then pulled back on the nutes.
They do warn about nutes on young plants but only for the novice grower. Overloving your girl is very common

.
And you should check youtube.com for grow vids. I learned alot there.

I intend to use CFL all the way. I've got 246W = 18K Lumens. I realize the lost lumens but I'm testing the spectrum of CFL's effect on Buds.
Come check me out, I'll catch ya later

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