Quote Originally Posted by natureisawesome
There is no possible nuetrality. There is no perfect unbias.
I'm sorry, but that is obviously beyond my point. Sounds to me like you didn't know what to reply with. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but if you're going to reply, make sure to construct it to be arguable against my point.


I'll have to look into that. I would think knowledge of drawings like that would be well circulated. You seem to say It's something you really believe in so I thought maybe you could find me a few examples.
They are indeed well-circulated. Do I really believe that people back then saw ufo's? I don't know, it's possible... just like people see ufo's nowadays. However, if we go any further into this another discussion on the concept of extraterrestial life would start, so I won't go into that. Somebody could have, of course, made it all up to try and disprove of religion. Then again, maybe not.


That's true.
And for that reason that you agree with, I believe you are indeed following a religion that currently has no purpose but to control. To me, it's all a system of control.

I wish you understood the hypocricy when people say that sheep are close minded and igorant, or when they say they don't think for themselves. If I didn't think for myself, I would go along the same wide path that the world takes, but instead I use discernment and swim against the flow. And many people want to be and "special" and "unique", but they don't understand that everything they have is a gift from God. They in fact conform to unconformaty, but I think it's really only rebellion and selfishness.
Then again, everyone has a definition of their own. My definition of a sheep is, in fact, someone who is closed minded and ignorant, and doesn't think for themselves. Are you a sheep? Maybe not. Am I a wolf? I don't know. You make some contradictions here, so I'm a bit confused as to what to say about that.

I think that a lot of people don't really care whether it's correct or not honestly. Or at least not that much. And a lot of people convinced that there is no Truth only personal truth (which is a contradiction) or a few people like Imitator who think it's close to being or is unsearchable or unknowable. It's interesting how one can assert to know it's unknowable.
If people don't care whether it's correct or not, then they're wasting their time. One can know it's unknowable, at least in our present state of science. Our science, and your bible, have no way of disproving, or proving, that your faith exists. Thus, at this time it is indeed unknowable, and I know it.

Why are you doomed to hell? If there's the right religion, then you can find it.
Exactly my point, if you can find the right religion, and if there is a right religion. And by no means does that mean that christianity is the end-all, be-all. However, every Christian would say so, just like every muslim would say Islam is.

You don't have to believe in every religion, it's not unsearchable. So few have truly tried with honestly . And I know people will disagree with mwe on that. Just because many religions believe theirs to be correct does not mean a correct one exists, or that it is impossible to find. And there are big big differences between these religions.
The only thing I can think of that has any truth to what you say about the right religion being found, is about one finding the right religion for them. It's an individual preference. Just because many religions believe theirs to be correct does not mean a correct one exists, or that it is impossible to find? You just agreed with one of my biggest points. Yes, there are big differences with the religions, and yet at the same time they are all alike.

Like I said, I don't believe in God, but I don't rule out the possibility. And as I see it, if God does exist, I would not respect him. And yes, I would rather go to hell than to follow what the bible says. Even though the bible has been edited and revised many times to justify certain causes. To explain what the bible is in one word, it would be "propaganda." And in fact, it fits the definition of propaganda perfectly.

Some people use religion to find meaning in their life. Some people believe in God because they're afraid of the afterlife. Some people go to religion because they feel helpless and afraid in life (fight or flight. religion would be flight, in this case).
Some people use religion to help stay sober from addictive drugs.
Some people abide by religion because they grew up in a religious family.
Some people use religion as control, and to justify otherwise unjustifiable things.

From what I've seen in my life, these are some of the most common reasons why people believe in some sort of God.