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08-29-2007, 07:43 PM #1
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A path to faith with science
Like I said, Jesus never said that our faith was to be without any proof or foundation, and indeed the bible actually says the opposite. I do very much use faith. Paul tells us what faith is:I find it funny that you don't seem to want to use faith (which is one of the main pillars of not only Christianity, but Judiasm, Islam, ect.) but seek to justify your faith by interpreting scientific data and forming a conclusion and presenting it as fact.
What I hope for is spiritual, and I have Spiritual evidence, but it cannot be seen, and therefore requires believe. But this in no way negates the Spiritual proof. By the invisible recognition of God's nature and the invisible understanding of my mind I interpret the evidence of all creation and confirm through faith that the worlds were created by his Spiritual word. I recognize and compare Spiritual with Spiritual. You cannot recognize Spiritual nature without spiritual understanding, and you cannot recognize design without recognition of intelligence.Hebrews 11
1Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
What do you mean, every time they clashed? You're not referring to the same old tired and misused examples of galileo and capornicus are you? The scientific discoveries never contradicted the bible at all, in fact they actually confirmed it! It was the conflict between Copernican science and Aristotelian science which had become Church tradition. It was not a conflict between science and Scripture but science and men. In reality, the bible has never contradicted science.every time science and religion have clashed (mainly back in the days when the church ruled all) Religion has been there to bash science over the head and stuff it back in the closet, yet now religion wants to be friends?
Anyone can do science experiments, not just people who believe in evolution. I enjoy very much doing science experiments. And creation scientists who work hard to earn their degrees (very often at secular/evolution biased colleges) are just as much scientists if not more. They have had to struggle very hard to survive in a world of wrongful discrimination and loss of jobs and rejection of grants because of their beliefs and prejudice and character assasination rule the day. Evolutionists would have made a bloody uproar if they were in the same situation, but they continue to discriminate against them wrongly.It isn't hard to see why a group of people that have a history of repressing ideas that contradict them lacks credulity when it comes to using science (something they have a history of not agreeing with), and I personally feel that if science is going to be used by anyone, let it be the actual scientists, the ones that actually understand it, and aren't simply using it as a means to their own end.
Actually, the very reason Darwin was motivated to develop evolution was for that very purpose, to disprove God. This can be shown to be obviously true. It would take me too long to explain it so read here:Im sure Darwin never said to himself "hey, let me try to use science to disprove God!"
Darwinâ??s real message: have you missed it?
So what if I do scrabble around for evidence for creation. There's certainly a lot I can scrabble. But I don't need to scrabble, there is plenty of evidence for creation that can be shown from the records of science. You point out that it's the majority view, but actually most Americans don't fully agree with materialistic evolution. And if even most Americans did, that doesn't prove anything. Majority doesn't make it right.it seems everything you have posted thus far is just scrabbling around the "science bin" to look for ideas that might help support Christianity, while ignoring everything and everyone that disagrees (the vast majority btw). Now I might seem cynical, but I am actually religious, and if you happen to somehow "prove God", I'll be just as happy as you, I just don't see it happening.natureisawesome Reviewed by natureisawesome on . A path to faith with science Some people don't think that faith and science are compatible. This is to demonstrate that is not the case and that science plays a part in helping to confirm God's existence and reveal his divine nature. This is to demonstrate one path to God. There is contained within both evidence for God's existence and attributes from the nature of the physical universe, and also evidence from direct communication from God and mankind. Finding out whether God exists or not is not just for philosophers Rating: 5
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