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08-26-2007, 03:11 AM #11
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A path to faith with science
No way. There are 0 good reasons to doubt your existance. We see the evidence for God and stability and reality and love all around us and in us.About the same amount or reasons that we have to doubt that they dont exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by natureisawesome
SO I have a question to get back to the topic.
What good reason does anyone have to doubt they exist?
It's like you just totally ignored all the evidence I've pointed out.The playing field is even, as far as I am concerned. Its a quagmire. No one can truely prove that god(s) exist with current evidence available, but no one can disprove it either. That is literally why the call it faith.
Because you can't have a good life without God.In my personal opinion, if a person is leading a good life, no matter in who's name it is in, then why should they change their life to fit another god(s) ways?
But there has to be spiritual standard to say this is right or this is wrong. If God's morality and ours contradict, we're wrong. And most people would never put that philosophy that you mentied above to practice in real life. Without Spiritual truth good or bad is meaningless.And in that freewill they gave us the ability to have morals, and let those morals be whatever we wish, as a part of our freewill. It doesnt mean that god doesnt have his set rules of whats good and bad, but they let us choose what we ourselves feel is good and bad.
It's not right to steal from others. But what if someone's value system told them it was fine to steal from you? How would you like that? Stealing by defenition is taking something not rightfully yours to take. So it's always wrong.Quick slightly over-exaggerated for the point example... Stealing is considered bad, and is stated so in the bible, correct? What about stealing to feed your family? What about stealing to save a life? What about stealing to protect the person whom you stole from? So many nuances, that can never fully be covered by any rules laid down in a book or by a god. Do you just go with the blanket ruling that stealing is bad, and leave it at that? Or do YOU have specific things out of that list that you feel is ok considering the circumstances?
I'm quite aware of this. But the bottom line is justice and love are recognised by everyone. Everyone has their own twisted view of what that entails. It is also important to remember that culture that influences people's philosphy and morals shaped by people's behaviour. So it all comes around back circle.If you ever get a chance natureisawesome, I recommend reading through a few other religious texts, and to take the time to notice the similarities and differences in the "rules" of all of them. You would be shocked at how similar, yet so dis-similar they can be.
We never start out with a full understanding. We grow and learn and our understanding grows. What's important is that you're honest and wise about what you have. It will grow in the right direction then and we will learn more only to learn more.IDK, you might enjoy it, you might not, but I always think that full understanding of something you believe in is important, otherwise you may find you are following nothing but lies, or have misunderstood/interpretted something critical.
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