A path to faith with science

[Hardcore Newbie]

We all need love man. We all need life. And we all have a consciencess and a need for peace. When I said that, I wasn't omitting the spiritual evidence, but I was talking about how all the plants and animals look incredibly designed. It's unreasonable to act like it doesn't and that it's unreasonable to consider (highly consider) that it's created.

looking incredibly designed, is again, purely subjective. Also, if we assume that these are the best designs, i don't think it's unreasonable that after a long long long long time, that the best designs are the ones that we see. We wouldn't see a bunch of shit that doesn't work, because... well... it doesn't work.

Just because you're happy doesn't mean you're right. Evil people live in happiness and pleasure too.

Well, I'm not doubtful of my conscience, and i don't doubt yours. So I guess we'll move one from this too. [/quote]

A truly omniscient God couldn't be truly igorant of anything. But I suppose he could just throw things randomly together if he wanted to. But does what we observe in the outside world resemble a jumbled mess?

Duck billed platypus. Even marijuana, to me, looks pretty damn jumbled. Appearance, again, is subjective. What looks organized to you may be disorganized to me, and vice versa.

Love never grows old. And again, does this reflect what we know about the evidence we have?

It'd explain a lot of things, like... hmmm, what example do I like to use a lot? talking animals? what better way to mess with someone than to make a donkey talk. Lots of things in religion seem like a guy who just says random things for kicks... Don't wear this, don't use pillows... STAND ON ONE LEG FOREVER!

Yes, I admit that's what axioms are. But we have the eternal also. And besides, shouldn't we go on the evidence we do have? Don't you think it's at least enough to reach out for God ?

not really. If god is this hidden to me and he, for whatever reason, needs me to recognize him, he can always take my open invite to chat and shoot the shit.

I didn't know that was an issue at all. I will review the thread.

maybe you'll actually answer the question I've posed, no one else has

Yes, they don't have the same recognition of God we do. That's one of the things that make them so different. But they are different creatures and so behave differently/ held to a different standard, but never anything truly evil. But I think animals have a conscience too. A dog knows when he's done wrong for example.

I think they feel too. But if animals can get along without god (assumed), then why can't humans? You think it'd be easier for us to get along than animals because we (presumably, again) have higher reasoning skills, and can see the benefit of having working together.

Hardcore Newbie Reviewed by Hardcore Newbie on 08-25-2007. A path to faith with science Some people don't think that faith and science are compatible. This is to demonstrate that is not the case and that science plays a part in helping to confirm God's existence and reveal his divine nature. This is to demonstrate one path to God. There is contained within both evidence for God's existence and attributes from the nature of the physical universe, and also evidence from direct communication from God and mankind. Finding out whether God exists or not is not just for philosophers Rating: 5