Quote Originally Posted by natureisawesome
That's..I can't believe you are saying that.

Entropy is a measure of a a sytems unavailability to do work. The energy available in our universe to do work is being lost...I just don't understand how you can say that. That's totally wrong. I'm seriously baffled, like ..

Things don't naturally become more complex by the 2nd law. They become less complex. Period.

" The entropy of an isolated system not in equilibrium will tend to increase over time, approaching a maximum value at equilibrium. "

I'm tired of arguing about whether things are closed or not closed. It's irrelevent. There are not exceptions to the second law.

Yes our bodies do harness energy from food, and complex machinery is required to do this.
Again you choose to employ mechanistic terminology.

I'm not saying it is the second law which causes things to become more complex, its quasi-equilibrium, as I have already indicated. Dissipative structures defy the 2nd law by forming into structures which harness the flow of enery through them, in the same way an organism does, or a planetary biosphere such as the earth. This requires the harnessing structure to be closed, but at the same time open to a flow of energy through it.

It was you who said the second law causes things to become more complex, you are confusing order with disorder, perhaps unintentionally. Either way what you said about entropy and life was fundamentally incorrect.