Junkyard,

I know this might sound different to you, but I'm not a sinner. A sinner is a person who sins. The bible on several occasions makes this distinction, both in the the new and old testament. :

1 Peter 4:18
And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
and others.

The point is, yes we stumble but I don't sin anymore. It's my flesh that's doing it, and I'm fighting against it.

In any case, this thread is starting to get off topic junkyard, and if you want we can continue this elsewhere but I want this thread to focus on the topic I started it for.