When we lived above the California border in Oregon, we knew people in Humboldt County. That was 20 yrs ago easily. I can remember my son leaving in the middle of the night to travel with his friend to visit his mom in Humboldt. They'd return the next day with bags of what was called then 'bud clippings' this was the water leaves and small leaves that surrounded the buds. They'd tell tales of large bags of what they'd throw away were tossed into the river to be carried away to sea. Sometimes now when I'm dry and out, I think I'd love to have even just one of those bags they'd throw away. It was then the mecca for growers.