does the believe in god

[jdmarcus59]

Again, you didn't directly answer the questions. Since you're unwilling or unable to answer them, I will answer them for you.

1. Since God has seen HN's death, it would of course be impossible to die in any other way. To be able to do so would mean that God is fallible, and this is not so.
2. No, you cannot magically choose another meal, for the same reason. The ability to change the future from what God has seen would be to overpower God, and God is all powerful.

If you don't believe these statements to be the case, please answer the previous questions, with your rebuttal.

And please, if you wish to rebut, don't sidestep the questions, take them head on. If your belief that free will is possible in spite of a being knowing the absolute future, then the questions themselves should be easily answered.

God knew that you were going to write on this web site, becuse He
know the begining from the end right? but did God make you write
on this web site, are out of a act of free will you choose to write on this web site? like I said before people can go round and round
over things like this, but I choose not to lol.if this makes no sence
to you then Iam sorry. I thought my answers were very clear. peace and have a nice day.

[Hardcore Newbie]

Your answers are not answers. They're *really* close but I'm still looking for that "no, you can't do it differently" which I've already filled in for you.

I'll ask one more time and hopefully I can get an answer. If not, then I'll stop. I'm looking for a direct answer (yes, no, or sometimes/maybe) with your explanation.

Can I live my life any differently than the way God has pictured it to happen?

You've got the explanation part down, but you refuse to answer yes or no (or maybe/sometimes).

Have a good one.

[jdmarcus59]

Your answers are not answers. They're *really* close but I'm still looking for that "no, you can't do it differently" which I've already filled in for you.

I'll ask one more time and hopefully I can get an answer. If not, then I'll stop. I'm looking for a direct answer (yes, no, or sometimes/maybe) with your explanation.

Can I live my life any differently than the way God has pictured it to happen?

You've got the explanation part down, but you refuse to answer yes or no (or maybe/sometimes).

Have a good one.

ok Ill play lol, can you live your life any differently then God plan?
the qustion really should be can you live your life differently then
Gods will for your life, and the hundered dollar answer is
"Drum roll please" YES, you can live your life out side of Gods will,
because we have free will, if we did not have free will adam and eve would not have sinned.so the reason God knows what you are
going to have for dinner, is because He can SEE the choice you will make He does not make the choice for you.He can see your life from begining to end, He see the choices you make here, and He see the Choices you will make there, that is why there is a judgement, God will judge you and I on the choices we make, do we choice to belive and be saved, or do we choice not to belive.
we can go down a road that leads us no where,then we can chose to leave that road and follow another, and God will see the choice we made.this is what the Bible teaches, it teaches free will.
THE END:thumbsup:

[Hardcore Newbie]

ok Ill play lol, can you live your life any differently then God plan?
the qustion really should be can you live your life differently then
Gods will for your life, and the hundered dollar answer is
"Drum roll please" YES, you can live your life out side of Gods will,
because we have free will, if we did not have free will adam and eve would not have sinned.so the reason God knows what you are
going to have for dinner, is because He can SEE the choice you will make He does not make the choice for you.He can see your life from begining to end, He see the choices you make here, and He see the Choices you will make there, that is why there is a judgement, God will judge you and I on the choices we make, do we choice to belive and be saved, or do we choice not to belive.
we can go down a road that leads us no where,then we can chose to leave that road and follow another, and God will see the choice we made.this is what the Bible teaches, it teaches free will.
THE END:thumbsup:

Well, since you changed my question, and thus avoided it yet again, I'll stop asking you. I really thought you'd answer this time, and I didn't think it'd be that difficult.

Anyone else want a crack at the question?

"Can I live my life any differently than the way God has already seen it happen?"

[snicklefritz1825]

"Can I live my life any differently than the way God has already seen it happen?"

Yea you can that is your free will. You make your choices not God, If we didn't have free will then we would be perfect and not living in a life of sin. God knows what you are going to do in the future but that does not mean he made that decision for you.

[Hardcore Newbie]

Yea you can that is your free will. You make your choices not God, If we didn't have free will then we would be perfect and not living in a life of sin. God knows what you are going to do in the future but that does not mean he made that decision for you.

The explanation in your answer contradicts your "yea you can" statement.

You've stated that "yea [I] can" live my life differently than God has seen it, which contradicts the part where you say that God knows what I'm going to do in the future. The ideas that you present are in opposition with each other.

Perhaps you can elaborate.

[jdmarcus59]

hardcore newbie, lets take a look at your qustion " can I live my life any differently then the way God has already seen it happen" a key word here is ALREADY, so if you were to ask the qustion that way then the answer would be NO, if I ALREADY lived my life I could not change it. That would be a true statement. The promblem is that we have not ALREADY lived are life, we are still living are lifes, there fore we are still making choises. Are life have not been written down and then we just go through are lifes living out what has already been written, God see how are lifes will be cause He see the choices we will make. Are you making choices today? are or you just a robot living out what you have been programed to do? so the answer to your qustion is no, why? because you put the word ALREADY IN your
qustion.

[snowblind]

god is like the roads, we are the car. just because there are routes planned out. doesnt mean we have to follow them. we have the free will to go where we want. in the context of this argument god just knows all outcomes. the factors and variables that contribute to the outcome are ours to choose

[Hardcore Newbie]

hardcore newbie, lets take a look at your qustion " can I live my life any differently then the way God has already seen it happen" a key word here is ALREADY, so if you were to ask the qustion that way then the answer would be NO, if I ALREADY lived my life I could not change it. That would be a true statement. The promblem is that we have not ALREADY lived are life, we are still living are lifes, there fore we are still making choises. Are life have not been written down and then we just go through are lifes living out what has already been written, God see how are lifes will be cause He see the choices we will make. Are you making choices today? are or you just a robot living out what you have been programed to do? so the answer to your qustion is no, why? because you put the word ALREADY IN your
qustion.

No, you changed the basis of my question from

"Can I live my life any differently than the way God has already seen it happen?"
to
"can you live your life differently thenGods will for your life?"

That's a completely different question.

The 'already' refers to what God's has seen of the future (namely, all of it), not if I've already lived my life. He has already seen the future, because if he didn't, He wouldn't be all knowing. And not being all knowing would invalidate His entire existence.

But, if it pleases you, I'll rephrase my question, and drop the 'already'. The basis of the question remains the same, it really makes no difference.

Can I live my life any differently than the way God has seen it happen?

[jdmarcus59]

No, you changed the basis of my question from

"Can I live my life any differently than the way God has already seen it happen?"
to
"can you live your life differently thenGods will for your life?"

That's a completely different question.

The 'already' refers to what God's has seen of the future (namely, all of it), not if I've already lived my life. He has already seen the future, because if he didn't, He wouldn't be all knowing. And not being all knowing would invalidate His entire existence.

But, if it pleases you, I'll rephrase my question, and drop the 'already'. The basis of the question remains the same, it really makes no difference.

Can I live my life any differently than the way God has seen it happen?

you still have the word has in there.