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08-21-2007, 08:49 PM #11Senior Member
does the believe in god
I got to thinking on this, and I've drawn a conclusion that even the idea of an all powerful being itself is an impossibility. All powerful would include the power to see the future, yes?
Anyone care to rebut or are we all in agreement?
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08-21-2007, 09:54 PM #12Senior Member
does the believe in god
Originally Posted by Hardcore Newbie
walk this earth to search and find.
and if you find the truth dont hide.
for this may be your last day to try.
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08-22-2007, 12:05 AM #13Senior Member
does the believe in god
Originally Posted by jdmarcus59
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08-22-2007, 03:12 AM #14Senior Member
does the believe in god
Originally Posted by Hardcore Newbie
if you did not have free will then you would be nothing more then a programed robot, destened to do only what you have been programed to do, but God has given you free will so that you can choses to belive in him are not belive, and God works through your free will to work all things out for the good,I went to prison once and even tho it was not Gods will that I broke the law and had to go to prison, he used that prison experience to my good so that I would
come to repentence, are to a point were I had a change of heart.
so God took what was bad and turned it around for my good, it was not Gods perfect wiil that I had to go down to the pit, but because of his great love for us he is able to take a lump of coal and turn it to a stone of great value
premium stone of great worthwalk this earth to search and find.
and if you find the truth dont hide.
for this may be your last day to try.
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08-22-2007, 03:45 AM #15Senior Member
does the believe in god
So, you quoted my original passage with no intentions of answering the actual questions. You've answered my request for clarification, but your clarification still has nothing to do with the original questions. You've given me an "answer" in a way that any politician would. So my questions stand (to all
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"If god sees me die a certain way, wouldn't it be impossible for me to die in any other way?
If god sees what meals I will eat next week, can I magically choose different ones or not eat all together? "
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08-22-2007, 04:50 AM #16Senior Member
does the believe in god
Originally Posted by Hardcore Newbie
does not mean you have no choses on what you eat, God does not program you, you eat what YOU want to eat, not what He whats you to eat, I dont know why this is so hard for you to understandwalk this earth to search and find.
and if you find the truth dont hide.
for this may be your last day to try.
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08-22-2007, 05:55 AM #17Senior Member
does the believe in god
Originally Posted by jdmarcus59
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08-22-2007, 06:18 AM #18Senior Member
does the believe in god
Originally Posted by jdmarcus59
- Since God has seen HN's death, it would of course be impossible to die in any other way. To be able to do so would mean that God is fallible, and this is not so.
- No, you cannot magically choose another meal, for the same reason. The ability to change the future from what God has seen would be to overpower God, and God is all powerful.
And please, if you wish to rebut, don't sidestep the questions, take them head on. If your belief that free will is possible in spite of a being knowing the absolute future, then the questions themselves should be easily answered.
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08-22-2007, 10:25 AM #19Member
does the believe in god
We're just a chemical reaction tho'. Everything we do or "chose" to do is based on the previous parts of our lives and the matter inside and around us.
There was a philosopher who said that if you knew where every single piece of matter was in the universe, and knew how it would react to every other piece, you could predict what the universe would look like any numbers of years into the future, right down to the evoloution of humans and what they got up to in detail.
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08-22-2007, 04:25 PM #20Senior Member
does the believe in god
Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity
walk this earth to search and find.
and if you find the truth dont hide.
for this may be your last day to try.