Im always just the friend...

[Spoken Word]

i have to agree with thcbongman.....
hes a smart dude..

you will never know until you try... and then sometimes it will kill you not to know... or at least with me it could...

you dont wanna be later on down the road be like, "i wonder what could have happened" or some shit like that....

i agree... thcbongman is a VERY smart dude. and so are you.

you both pretty much summed it up. infact, i didn't see any advice i didn't agree with. even like reefer rouge said above. maybe this girl, isn't the one.
only you know that. and if you are sure, go for it man!. lol

i think every man, by nature, knows how to talk to women. it's in our code. we just need to be confidant about ourselves...and of course BE ourselves... nature will take care of the rest.

[GraziLovesMary]

I think telling him to kiss this girl is bad advice and very disrespectful. Be her friend and if they break up, then tell her how you feel. Try and find another girl.

Things work differently in America, sure it could end up having undesireable effects, but then again it could work for the better.

Straighupg... slip her some roofies! JUST KIDDING!!

But yeah youve gotten some good advice here, I have nothing to add.

[Zcomp]

Straightupg, You'll always be friends if your not confident enough with her. Women in America prefer the strong man. If you want some then you need to go for it period. Don't let fear motivate your actions. You will always lose when you harbor fear. Think about it. I'm not talking crap, I was that friend for many years, Right until I realized that all the assholes get the nice women cause they don't care. They say what ever when ever to get some. And they do!! All it takes is that confidence(or disregard, but face it we aren't those people).

[Zcomp]

oh and about the kissing. Thats a Win/Lose situation. You try to kiss her with no warning when she thinks ya'll are just friends and you could blow it completely. If you have the guts then say it in words. Strong confident and sincere words. That way even if she wasn't thinking of you that way, she'll have time to. This gives you the best overall odds I think. But you can't be stuttering when you speak. If you can't get together the gall to say it and mean it then go for the silent kiss.

[spliffstar22]

you gotta be in control, wat the hell do you expect from her without her knowing, just tell her she's beautiful, and your sure shes hearin that everyday already, but you felt the need to tell her....and it sounds like her bf is a real dick, and doesnt tell her shes beautiful, not everyday anyways, she'll realize how much of a dick her man is, and then run off with you.........lol that's my number one line, even on girls that have a BF, and it still works.......cause im a guy, i know how a guys mind works, and telling your girl shes beautiful EVERYDAY doesnt cross no mans mind.......lol

[Reefer Rogue]

Things work differently in America, sure it could end up having undesireable effects, but then again it could work for the better.

Straighupg... slip her some roofies! JUST KIDDING!!

But yeah youve gotten some good advice here, I have nothing to add.

Not every male in America moves in on another man's girlfriend just because they 'like them'

[thcbongman]

Not every male in America moves in on another man's girlfriend just because they 'like them'

So I guess it's respectful to watch while the bf of the girl he likes is using her for sex. Not in anyway sensual, or from game. From pressure.

The dude obviously likes her for who she is. He isn't concerned about getting any. He's giving her advice, talking to her. He's obviously concerned about her.

Now yes, it's morally questionable. I been that man who had his ex-wife stolen by someone else, not only once, but twice. I know the pain. I should be the one saying it's disrespectful.

But you know what? I dropped the ball. The BF in this case dropped the ball. Fair game.

[Reefer Rogue]

So I guess it's respectful to watch while the bf of the girl he likes is using her for sex. Not in anyway sensual, or from game. From pressure.

The dude obviously likes her for who she is. He isn't concerned about getting any. He's giving her advice, talking to her. He's obviously concerned about her.

Now yes, it's morally questionable. I been that man who had his ex-wife stolen by someone else, not only once, but twice. I know the pain. I should be the one saying it's disrespectful.

But you know what? I dropped the ball. The BF in this case dropped the ball. Fair game.

If the boyfriend was so bad she would dump him, it seems simple to me. I wish the guy who made this thread gets this girl he wants, really i do, i don't want to be a downer. I think it's important to make a good first impression with women, his impression was of a friend. Now, he can turn this around but it is hard. We both know that the boyfriend is trying to use this girl for sex or whatever, however until the girl realizes this i don't think it will change. So thread maker, either tell her how you feel and prepare for a higher percentage of rejection (she's still with him) or wait until she dumps him, because it doesn't sound like long until she will. I believe that if you were to tell her to dump him that would only push them closer together, that's my opinion though. The decision is ultimately yours. I'm trying to save you grief and a lack of confidence. I would try and find another girl, it will probably make the one you like jealous and want you. Think about it and i wish you luck.

[spliffstar22]

^^ Most girls dont realize, because of 3 words, and after that......it's downhill........

[GraziLovesMary]

Not every male in America moves in on another man's girlfriend just because they 'like them'

Not at all. But if she is unhappy with her boyfriend because he doesnt treat her right, and this guy has feelings for it... fuggit. If he wants to express those feelings he should go for it. If she finds it disrespectful she will communicate that to him one way or another. What does he have to lose