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08-15-2007, 12:02 AM #21Senior Member
The Only USA Presidential Candidate In Favor Of Legalization
I support the guy too. Last election I voted for Badnarik, the Libertarian candidate. I knew he wouldn't win, but so what? If you vote for a guy that you don't think will win, you're essentially saying that you're willing to vote, but you don't like your choices. And even if the guy you vote for does lose, if enough other people vote for him, the leading candidates will think, maybe they need to change their platforms to be more like his in order to get those votes.
Keep this in mind: no presidential candidate has ever won by a single vote, and the laws of averages state that this will likely never happen. No matter who you vote for, the election results will be the same. And wouldn't you rather your vote go toward change than toward keeping the same broken system in power?
Oh, and No Child Left Behind sucks. More like, No Child Gets Ahead.
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08-15-2007, 12:50 AM #22Senior Member
The Only USA Presidential Candidate In Favor Of Legalization
Alot of very good points here. I however feel it is time we all stand up and speak out, (or stand out and speak up)! It's all about gaining a little ground and holding on. If we pursued that idea, I believe we would sooner than later see some positive changes. I think that by voting for our most disliked candidates opposition, we're contributing to the downfall of democracy. And btw, I thought that when you hit bottom there's only one way to go, apparently not!
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08-15-2007, 12:56 AM #23Senior Member
The Only USA Presidential Candidate In Favor Of Legalization
I also don't think he's electable, not enough visibility and nowhere enough money. If Hillary is elected we will at least have medical marijuana without federal interference, a step in the right direction (this from a lifelong Republican, scary isn't it?).
More power to his supporters though, perhaps their efforts now will pay off in the future.
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08-15-2007, 12:58 AM #24Senior Member
The Only USA Presidential Candidate In Favor Of Legalization
I love Ron Paul's idea on minimizing the government's power & spending. It's absolutely brilliant! No longer will America's government have the funding or power to be the intrusive meddlers we have come to know. If he can revolutionize the concept of government in America, then it will set new standards for future presidents to come. Hopefully, an experience like the one Ron Paul promises will not only revolutionize government, but also revolutionize the minds of Americans! We need a better philosophy on all this!
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08-15-2007, 02:00 AM #25Senior Member
The Only USA Presidential Candidate In Favor Of Legalization
Originally Posted by Ganj
blaze the haze for daze
Embrace the grace of the fine herb.
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08-15-2007, 02:15 AM #26Senior Member
The Only USA Presidential Candidate In Favor Of Legalization
Originally Posted by MajMike
Originally Posted by burnable
Did somebody really say that? If not now, then when? Never, that's when. We could survive a 100 years and more of shitty Presidents. Don't buy into the fear that the world is going to end.
We have to take our lumps and get this ship righted. We need to pitch in and make some sacrifices by choosing what we want and not what is least offensive. This is why the war in Iraq is not over. The people expect the gov. to solve all problems. Our government should have forced us to sacrifice as in WWII. Osama would have been caught, and the Afghanis would have been rescued from their oppressors.
The president is always less of a problem than we the people...and that is why we need an intelligent leader who will motivate us to be more involved in democracy. We need a leader that rallies the people around him/her rather than one that scares the shit out of us. Fear. Fear. Fear.
This is the same reason that Marijuana is still not decriminalized. If everybody that actually smoked, became more active rather than hiding out in fear of being bust (and I consider myself one of these cowards)...who knows. And this is the fear that will allow us to weather many more ill-minded Presidents. The self-interest and fear are what keeps the country glued together in one brilliant mass of what-could-have-been. I am willing to risk the destruction of our country in order to create a hope that it will somehow persevere. The status quo leave no room for improvement, and that is what we will get if we do not make bold choices and take risks. This way of thinking that everything will stay at least as good as it is right now as long as we keep applying band-aids is misguided.
And by the way, Nader and his supporters did not loose the election for Gore. Gore and the Democratic party lost the election by not having any balls during his campaign. It never should have been close enough to allow Nader's votes to come into play. Kerry? Same thing. Hillary can probably pull it out this time even though she also has NO cajones. Her speeches are void of any charisma, personality, honesty, or constructive sentiments.
All of this being said. Kucinich is my man. He is more informed and more intelligent than any other candidate. And that is what I want. I don't want any more Presidents who are there due to inheritance (Dem. or Rep.) I will keep voting for who I want to win, not who has a better chance of winning. You can't win any money at the track unless you go for the longshot.
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08-15-2007, 02:32 AM #27Member
The Only USA Presidential Candidate In Favor Of Legalization
Originally Posted by MajMike
\"You mean a career? Uh. I don\'t know. Ahem. I\'ve thought about this quite a bit, sir, and I would have to say, considering what\'s out there for me, I don\'t want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything. I don\'t want to sell anything bought or processed, buy anything sold or processed, or process anything bought, sold, or processed, or repair anything bought, sold, or processed, you know, as a career, I don\'t want to do that.
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08-15-2007, 02:53 AM #28Senior Member
The Only USA Presidential Candidate In Favor Of Legalization
tea party, the text you extracted from my post and then isolated now has a totally different meaning than the context in which I originally inserted it. Granted I could have said "I don't know if our country can afford THIS particular principle." poor choice of words. Of course the white house has been totally devoid of principles, except loyalty to a person, since 2000.
My point was that the damage that bush has caused is not yet fully known. It's like someone shows you a lot of fancy gifts and then later you find that they charged thousands of dollars to your credit card to make the purchases.
Once the next president gets to the WH, they'll sit down, go through the books and find much more demanding priorities than what they sold their campaign on.
I'm very much an idealist and do hope that notwithstanding the cleaning up that has to take place, the next prez will be able to do the things he/she campaigned on, especially since there are unpredictable nuances that interconnect when it comes to national policy and the economy that might balance out when completely new things are done.
And of course Gore himself lost his own election, I was merely using that as an example that there are many variables in an election and sometimes it's good to vote for who will benefit the majority over who will better represent your personal interests. We couldn't have known then, but we should know better now.
You should keep voting for who you want to win, but if you want the "longshot" to even be submitted for consideration you'd have to do a lot more than vote, like join their campaign and try to shape public opinion yourself in a broader arena than an internet forum (maybe you do, I don't know). I'm on your side, I wish more people were willing to be uncompromising in their vision of America, I just think you misunderstood most of what I said, partly owing to the fact that I was trying to convey an abstract thought in a unilateral manner
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08-15-2007, 04:08 AM #29Senior Member
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Originally Posted by burnable
...just kidding
I was in no way attacking your words, but that particular sentence jumped out and punched me in the nose, so I had to highlight it. I always wanted to be a campaign speech writer...I don't care what your opinion is, as long as you have one!
...But if you really want out of context:
Originally Posted by burnable
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08-15-2007, 04:19 AM #30Senior Member
The Only USA Presidential Candidate In Favor Of Legalization
hahaa ha
Don\'t smoke cannabis to relieve anger, but rather as a reward for working soberly through anger.
Life is too entertaining for higher powers not to be watching closely.
A rule really only needs to be followed by those who do not know why it is a rule.
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