thanks 2 guts,i'm hoping i pull it off too,the nearest anyone can get to it without coming intomy garden is about 25-30 metres so hopefully they'll see nothing,i can see them but i'm looking for them,hopefully the pumpkin vine will grow more then i can train it into a screen i'll attach to the fence between my garden and patio,that'll hide them,i'll try and find a pic from back of garden tell me what you think

were forecast a storm here lasting the rest of the week so looks like they're gonna take a bit of a battering,hope they make it