Some tips for a newbie

[Mr_Green]

anytime on the youtube movie... as a new grower myself i like to past down what the great growers has given me....well you do have a big plant and jus learning from your mistake is what makes you a better grower so keep up the good work and with that whole outlet problem jus get some to do it for you cuz there is no point in you messing something up when you have a great thing going for you.... good luck...

[smokinbuds21]

take your panle of in your home and find out theres a strip bolted inside of the panel where you screw wires into it there is green "ground and white "neutral" if they arnt in the panle together then why would you cross the wires doesnt make sence i know take you r panle of in you r residentail home and find out if its old that is!!!!!

i said it will be ok if your running "120 volts" dp research before you but in on someones help investagate you will find out the same exact thing im saying

if you wanted to run something like 208, 220, 240, 480 you just simply cant for your ground reasons you can always put 2 or three pole breaker in the panle and make you r own grown like i said and run all new wires how much are you really trying to grow?

120 should be ok if your doing just personal grow you can wire up almost any ballast to 120 volt cant beat me about electric unless your an electricain!!!!!!!!!!!

[stinkyattic]

smokinbuds, my ex boyfriend used to call himself an electrician too and claimed to have 6 years' expericence... yeah... he had 4 years at Tech (high school) and a few jobs as an apprentice, most of which he got fired from.

So as with all things on the internet, electrical advice is to be taken with a grain of salt, adn the best advice is, if you are doing something that can KILL you if done wrong, HIRE A PROFESSIONAL.

[Mr_Green]

yea get a professional.... best to be safe than sorry.... good luck...

[smokinbuds21]

yea good point this is just the internet something that serious should be handles by a company that knows whats going on!

i know alot of people say there one thing and not the other i dint goto no tech school but i did goto apprentice 4 years of school and passed i help do most of the new cvs with drive through pharmacy 24 hrs around here that is baltimore and dc and all between sorry for arguing on your thread 420 cat

i dnt know what it is but where ever i go pharmacan comes and starts stuff why? i dnt know but for now on i will ignore his ass hes tryin to start trouble im sure i was right but you still deffinitly need a expert

yea good luck have a nice grow:rasta:

[PharmaCan]

i dnt know what it is but where ever i go pharmacan comes and starts stuff why? i dnt know but for now on i will ignore his ass hes tryin to start trouble im sure i was right but you still deffinitly need a expert

I have nothing against you. However, if I read someone giving faulty advice about something that I know about, I will say so. I haven't criticized you, only the advice you are giving.

Now, I have 40+ years experience in construction and had my journeyman's card before you were born. Over the years I've installed at least a thousand electrical panels.

...and, not to brag, but the last time I got a correction on an electrical inspection was in 1989.

But I suppose you might know more than me about electrical...

Anyway, that's why it's best to take Stinky's advice and get a professional to do it. :thumbsup:

PC :smokin:

[smokinbuds21]

well if im right you had a failed inspection when i was 8 years old impressive but dont know how far i can bieleave that not calling you a lier

ive done all types of panles my self ive done mvp panles that supply 6 diffrent panles and cummunications panles that have people turning the lights on and off 5000 miles away from a computer ive never applied for my journeymans liscens but everyone tells me i could get it because i do it all with my hands

if you did this for soo long why didnt you ever get to the electricain test?

ive herd that test is sooo hard!!!! maybe thats we have had diffrences you know diffrent electricains have there own way

seriously you have never seen residentail panle that has ground and neutral on the same strip?!

ive seen it but if your on the west coast it could be diffrent down here and its not just one house theres been many house the new houses might have there own neutral bar dnt know when we did heavy ups "panle upgrade" we always put the ground and neutral on the same strip

i do apologize for making you angry in any way i hope you dont get botherd if i ask you for electrical advise in the future!

[smokinbuds21]

no hard feelings pharmacan you know electricain and gardeners we got a lot in commen!!!

i do admit i shouldnt be so jumpy you no young blood young dumb full of !@#

alright hope to run into you a gain pharmacan but on good notes

happy growing:stoned:

[stinkyattic]

I'm glad you guys are being civil about all this.

Smokin, if I can give you some constructive criticism, it is also entirely possible that someone might misunderstand your posts because of the lack of punctuation in them.
You're talking about something really technical, so it's even MORE important to use excellent grammar and punctuation, and really spell it out for the rest of us who might not instinctively know what you are talking about.

I've never seen a residential panel with ground and neutral connected either btw... and I've been around construction my whole life too. As far as my understanding of electricity goes, that doesn't even make sense! In fact I am thinking that it defeats the entire idea of having a ground at all. But what do I know...

[PharmaCan]

Neutral wire - completes an electrical circuit - runs unused electricity to ground.

Ground wire - a safety device that diverts electricity to ground in the event it escapes from where it should be.

Granted, both of these eventually go to ground; and granted, the neutral and ground bars are required to be bonded to each other in the panel and, in fact, in modern panels there is often only one bar which is shared by both the grounds and neutrals.

Nevertheless, the neutral and ground wires are not interchangeable. Sure, one will function as the other, but that doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.

PC:smokin: