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here is where it ends. i have been waiting for that one ludicrous moment when it was declared that since god's presence was felt since the beginning of time, all good must flow from him. you took your own sweet time to get there.

some of my earliest memories are of discussions of religion and philosophy with my grandfather. he was a minister, a religious scholar and missionary who spent a great deal of his life traveling around the world teaching this tripe to the unsuspecting natives. it usually took him about two hours to reach this point. he would probably be a bit disappointed that you didn't give logic a better try before using this cliche.

it's been fun.