why would religous ppl not believe in Evolution

[LegalizeTheGreen]

Religion has many positive aspects, but in this thread I think we can all see the negatives. Blind faith and a refusal to respect others opinions are never good. The reason many people dislike christians seems to be apparent when they not only name call, but insult others for not believing what they believe, and for some reason think that people with open minds are the ignorant ones. Faith is an amazing thing most of the time, but anyone that refuses to listen to the other side of the argument (regarding anything, not just religion) is a poor example of that which they say they represent. Try faith, tempered with a little reason

[stinkyattic]

Religion has many positive aspects, but in this thread I think we can all see the negatives. Blind faith and a refusal to respect others opinions are never good. ..... Try faith, tempered with a little reason

I like that. Faith, reason, respect, and civility.

[Spoken Word]

Religion has many positive aspects, but in this thread I think we can all see the negatives. Blind faith and a refusal to respect others opinions are never good. The reason many people dislike christians seems to be apparent when they not only name call, but insult others for not believing what they believe, and for some reason think that people with open minds are the ignorant ones. Faith is an amazing thing most of the time, but anyone that refuses to listen to the other side of the argument (regarding anything, not just religion) is a poor example of that which they say they represent. Try faith, tempered with a little reason

you're right.

I just don't see the need to criticize someones "ignorance"....if to them, it's "faith".

There's no "truth". We are all humans and we have the ability to think for ourselves.
I was raised catholic and after "confirmation", I went my own way. I still wear the cross but because it's positive energy. Not because I think he died for my sins.

My grandmother is one of the most religous people I know and it's "blind".
But she's ALL positive and bring positivity and for me, that's GREAT.

so not only live and let live but who are we to tell someone they are wrong?

[Psycho4Bud]

The reason many people dislike christians seems to be apparent when they not only name call, but insult others for not believing what they believe, and for some reason think that people with open minds are the ignorant ones.

It works both ways.......there's a "non-believer" member visiting Club Gitmo that would testify to that one.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[slipknotpsycho]

The reason many people dislike christians seems to be apparent when they not only name call, but insult others for not believing what they believe, and for some reason think that people with open minds are the ignorant ones.

very true, but as P4B said, it goes both ways... personally i think people who beleive are kinda stupid for doing so (As i'm sure they think i'm stupid for not believing) but i learned along time ago i'm not going to change their mind... if only they could learn the same.

i have thrown so many errors in their faces about modern christianity, they always seem to wiggle outta of it though, usually with some generic 'answer'.... they're pretty slippery, like a vasaline covered trout.

since then i've decided to stop throwing stuff in their face... i'm just wasting my time anyways, i show them logic they retaliate with 'facts' and 'proof' god is real and blah blah.... now i just state my opinions for the most part, but unless i see something REALLY ignorant (as in something that goes against all modern teaching or it's just so 'out there' it makes me laugh) i'm not gonna debate them anymore on it.

[DarkHairedSativa]

Science disproves a lot of what is in that book of lies aka the bible.
1.No flood covering the Earth is possible because their is not enough water to cover all of the land up to the highest peaks,their would have to be twice as much water on the Earth to be able to do that.
2.We came from a rib,r u fuckin kiddin me and plus that's some messed up humans with all the incest that would have to happen for the population to be where it is at now.
3.And why the hell is "god"lieing to all of his prophets? The bible contradicts itslef on many occasions,come on Christians what's that about?

I don't doubt that their is a god but to believe in the christian god and the bible is just being dumb.

Please quote the contradictions to me....The water came from the sky and under the Earth...."the waters broke forth" Scientists studying the bottom of the ocean floors have proven the caverns are collapsed as if all the water came out and stood still then the pressure caused them to cave in.... which would then allow the water to recede from off the land into what we know today as "oceans"....and again Adam did NOT come from a rib......:hippy:

[slipknotpsycho]

Please quote the contradictions to me....The water came from the sky and under the Earth...."the waters broke forth" Scientists studying the bottom of the ocean floors have proven the caverns are collapsed as if all the water came out and stood still then the pressure caused them to cave in.... which would then allow the water to recede from off the land into what we know today as "oceans"....and again Adam did NOT come from a rib......:hippy:

perfect example of what i was talking about

(btw, dark is right, according the bible it was eve who came from adams rib, not adam that came from god's rib...)

[DarkHairedSativa]

Sorry to rain on this parade...

Homo rudolfensis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sorry,don't see how it couldn't have been a midget/dwarf or a deformed person or ape....

There are somewhere close to 100 different types of dwarfs walking around today...who's to say there weren't any then....just like how do the palentologists know what color scales the dinosaurs had or if they even had scales at all?? Now they think the raptor was more bird like with feathers....you never know...

[DarkHairedSativa]

oh boy... umm... well I guess Ill start off by expressing my curiosity on how creationism has been proven? This is quite startling news to me, and I would love to read up on how it has been proven if you would be so kind as to post a link or two for me Also I was a little curious as to why you feel that the King James Version of the bible would be the most accurate? I am guessing it may be due to your Protestant upbringing? Just speculation, I hope I didnt assume wrong! However, that version of the original bible is quite far from being the closest to the original version. But to be fair, the original has been lost to dead languages and cultures, and has been mistranslated many times over the millenia.

Im not trying to pick on you, I think you are a wonderful person, I am just a curious type of person! I like understanding where other people are coming from.

I'll find out the name of the author as I can't remember it off the top of my head....but the name of the book is called Starlight and Time....you can google it.It was written by a physicist, not a religious man. I believe that the Bible was written by man under the influence of the Holy Spirit...God is not a liar and he promised to keep his words true for all ages.Sorry, not a protestant... I grew up with barely any religion...just a little here and there from neighbors and extended family members here and there,until my Mom married a Catholic man and decided she was Catholic again.(how she was raised)I then got thrown into a Catholic school which I did not want to be in and when I left home at 15,I made a decision to find what I believe.I don't agree with most of the churches these days they are too full of legalities and judgments.Which is NOT what Christianity is all about.I believe the Bible and believe that every person has a choice to make for themselves.I believe Jesus is the son of God and the third part of God.The Trinity being God the Father,God the Son and God the Holyspirit.Three parts making a whole...kinda like and egg:shell white and yolk or water liquid,ice and steam....The Lord says come as you are not come with lots of money a mercedes and a 500,000 dollar house in a 3 piece suit.Alot of people are thrown totally away from religion aka Christianity (I do not call myself "religious" I am a "Christian") because alot of the religious people who claim to be Christian are not really.They are putting on a show and just being religious.Christianity is a way of heart not just a way of outward appearance.Unfortunately,most churches not ALL,have come down to appearances and lost the heart.The belief system that matches mine as closely as possible is Independant Fundamental Baptist.I believe the way to heaven is through accepting Jesus Christ as your Savior and asking forgiveness of your sins.Acknowleding Him through prayer.I don't think you need to be in church to do this.I don't believe you ever need to go to church to do this.It's a personal relationship between you and God alone.


Anyhow,So sorry I got off on a tangent....eek! Didn't mean too

But look up that book it is really cool!! :jointsmile:

[king of the world]

i'd like to share a quote with ya'll

"never argue with fools because people watching from a distance can't tell who's who"