wtf happened before the big bang?

[andruejaysin]

should not the Birds be the ones that should have the ego as they have thrived for some 200 millions of years and for all we know their minds may understand the universe much better than we. and it is us thats not evolved enough to have brains able to understand what they take for granted or even the mental ability to ask them.

"Man is to stupid to know how stupid he is" prm

Perhaps, but the fact they spend hours fighting their reflextion in a window argues against it.

[Coelho]

"Before the big bang, God was creating the hell for those who ask such questions" - some witty one

[andruejaysin]

It's really like asking "where did god come from". The most basic questin of all, why is there something, rather than nothing. And neither science or religion offers any answer.

[THClord]

This is so stupid. It looks like I'm talking to myself, cuz whoever I was talking to deleted his posts lol.

I never delete posts. You can't take back what you said. You can say you were wrong, but you still have to admit to saying it.

[obxguy86]

I remember reading a few months back on Learn More at Space.com. From Satellites to Stars, NASA information, Astronomy, the Sun and the Planets, we have your information here. ,or another similar site, about scientists looking into a way to view beyond the beginning of our universe. There was a way they can fold the outward acceleration back in on itself to view what came before the big bang. Pretty interesting. I culdn't find the story though. That'd be intense to see though. :stoned:

I myself think a cyclic, or renewable universe with perhaps many thousands of smaller universes budding off is most plausible. This is similar to a string theory universe where there is one large universe that compresses into another smaller but progressivly bigger universe(such as our is accelerating outwards today) until it reaches a max point and starts shrinking down into another new universe. :thumbsup:

Here are some more interesting links regarding the beginning of the universe:
1. SPACE.com -- New Theory: Universe Was Born in a Black Hole
2.SPACE.com -- In New Theory of Universe, Time Never Ends
3.Sentient Developments: The Universe is Freakin' Massive, Dude


THE UNIVERSE IS EXPANDING!! IT ISN"T BEING BUNCHED BACK TOGETHER BY GRAVITY YET. Dark matter and Dark energy act as a negative gravity and pushes everything away. Galaxies and local galaxiy systems aren't affected as much b/c the gravitational pull is soo intense, but in the spaces between the clusters of galaxies... space is expanding. :wtf:... yea
SPACE.com -- Universe Expansion is Accelerating, UK and Australian Researchers Say

The universe is just huge! Lets look at it this way....seriously check this out!!
According to the standard inflationary model of cosmology, the visible portion of our universe, the one mapped by our telescopes is an infinitesimally small speck in a much larger universe of at least 10 to the power 35 light-years across!

Admittedly this number is really, really big, and almost impossible to imagine. So lets shrink everything down, WAY down, just so we can get a better grasp of it. Let's imagine that the entire universe that we have seen in all the worlds telescopes, all the galaxies, all trillion of them, extending out 13 billion light years in every direction is shrunk down to the size of a golf ball.

If we do a volume calculation, the actual universe contains 10 to the power 60 of those golf balls! Wow, I guess we didn't shrink things down far enough, but this will have to do. So how big a volume would 10 to the power 60 golf balls fill up? Try a sphere 850 light years across! So imagine a mass of golf balls that big, and each one of those golf balls contains all the stars and galaxies that we can see through our telescopes!! :stoned:

It's pretty intense when you sit down and think about it, especialy when your ripped on some good "thinking" herb.:jointsmile::stoned:

[obxguy86]

I remember reading a few months back on Learn More at Space.com. From Satellites to Stars, NASA information, Astronomy, the Sun and the Planets, we have your information here. ,or another similar site, about scientists looking into a way to view beyond the beginning of our universe. There was a way they can fold the outward acceleration back in on itself to view what came before the big bang. Pretty interesting. I culdn't find the story though. That'd be intense to see though. :stoned:

I myself think a cyclic, or renewable universe with perhaps many thousands of smaller universes budding off is most plausible. This is similar to a string theory universe where there is one large universe that compresses into another smaller but progressivly bigger universe(such as our is accelerating outwards today) until it reaches a max point and starts shrinking down into another new universe. :thumbsup:

Here are some more interesting links regarding the beginning of the universe:
1. SPACE.com -- New Theory: Universe Was Born in a Black Hole
2.SPACE.com -- In New Theory of Universe, Time Never Ends
3.Sentient Developments: The Universe is Freakin' Massive, Dude


THE UNIVERSE IS EXPANDING!! IT ISN"T BEING BUNCHED BACK TOGETHER BY GRAVITY YET. Dark matter and Dark energy act as a negative gravity and pushes everything away. Galaxies and local galaxiy systems aren't affected as much b/c the gravitational pull is soo intense, but in the spaces between the clusters of galaxies... space is expanding. :wtf:... yea
SPACE.com -- Universe Expansion is Accelerating, UK and Australian Researchers Say

The universe is just huge! Lets look at it this way....seriously check this out!!
According to the standard inflationary model of cosmology, the visible portion of our universe, the one mapped by our telescopes is an infinitesimally small speck in a much larger universe of at least 10 to the power 35 light-years across!

Admittedly this number is really, really big, and almost impossible to imagine. So lets shrink everything down, WAY down, just so we can get a better grasp of it. Let's imagine that the entire universe that we have seen in all the worlds telescopes, all the galaxies, all trillion of them, extending out 13 billion light years in every direction is shrunk down to the size of a golf ball.

If we do a volume calculation, the actual universe contains 10 to the power 60 of those golf balls! Wow, I guess we didn't shrink things down far enough, but this will have to do. So how big a volume would 10 to the power 60 golf balls fill up? Try a sphere 850 light years across! So imagine a mass of golf balls that big, and each one of those golf balls contains all the stars and galaxies that we can see through our telescopes!! :stoned:

It's pretty intense when you sit down and think about it, especialy when your ripped on some good "thinking" herb.:jointsmile::stoned:

[macattack]

One theory says that outside of the universe is the inflation field. in this place large amounts of pure energy cause matter to be created (big bangs) in most cases the matter is thrown out into oblivion. however, in some places the properties of the field allow for bubbles to form in which the expansion rate is lower. these bubbles are universes.

[Patriot57]

It has been shown that the universe is not only expanding, but the expansion is accelerating. Dark Energy is what causes the expansion, but no one knows what dark energy is. Science currently makes no prediction of what happened before the big bang. The correct answer to the original question is, "I don't know".

[dragonrider]

Science currently makes no prediction of what happened before the big bang. The correct answer to the original question is, "I don't know".

That is correct.

Current physics cannot address what happened at the exact moment of the Big Bang. All the equations that work so well up to that moment break down at that point, and no one knows what happened "before." (There technically is no "before," because time began with the Big Bang.)

Currently it is believed that some kind of force called Dark Energy is driving an acceleration of the expansion of the universe. It is believed that the universe will continue to expand, thin out and cool down until it is dark, cold and empty.

I always take that kind of prediction with a grain of salt, bacause our understanding of the universe is always changing (for example, Dark Energy and Dark Matter were unknown just a few years ago, and no one knows for sure what they are yet). No one knows what we will find in the next few years to change our understanding of the ultimate fate of the universe. I'm hoping that the begining can be better understood, maybe through string theory or M theory, or some other crazy-ass thing that hasn't even been dreamed up yet --- it is probably not far away.

[greenhorngrower]

Nature has placed these questions beyond our concious reach. Life lived and life understood do not go hand in hand... if we understood the creation of the universe we would probably be gods creating our own. lol

Every question answered will bring about many more.. its a never ending rabbit hole, and once you do make it to the bottom, the truth is ripped out of your grasp and you start right back at the beginning of the hole. Existence is a cycle.. wether or not it was intelligently designed is puzzling...