wtf happened before the big bang?

[420ultimatesmokage]

this thread was supposed to be about the big bang. take your evolution talk elsewhere.

[natureisawesome]

we're all "guilty". btw, you're not a moderator so you should mind your own business.

[MadSativa]

thanks nature caseu I dont even wana start but we are all interested in what ever anyone has to say on the subject and last tim I look the theroy of evolution happend in the univers. Alright alright my bad I like what every one has to say though pleas keep up the discusion.

[420ultimatesmokage]

we're all "guilty". btw, you're not a moderator so you should mind your own business.

no im going to say what i want to say i don't care if you don't want to see it. evolution happened billions of years after the big bang so in the context of this discussion, they have nothing to do with each other.

[Quantummist]

Absolutely No Thing happened before the BB..

[THClord]

I'll tell you what happened before the Big Bang. The same thing that happened after the Big Bang.

Think of it like this: Big Bang -> expansion of universe -> contraction of universe -> everything is in a huge ass black hole again eventually -> another big bang
It's a cycle. You'd be stupid to think that out big bang is the first big bang.

Just look at history. First people thought the Earth was the center of the universe. WRONG. Then they thought the sun was the center of the unvierse. WRONG.

I would take it even further. I think there is not one big bang, but many, exept they are soooooo far away that we can't see that far. Or more precisely, not much radiation makes it this far.

IMO it's a stupid idea to think that all matter in the universe has to go back into the same ball before in can explode again. There are many solar systems orbiting each other to form galaxies, and also many galaxies orbiting each other to form what we know today. I think we can take it one step further. There are products of many big bangs that are orbiting each other to form the universe. I think that there could be a big bang happening every day, except it's just happening very far away.
And there does not need to be a center of the universe. It's just stupid. If space is nothing, how could it possible have a border?

One more metaphos to close. Not long ago people were convinced that we are the only intelligent form that exist. Today mathematitians and biologists agree that based on the size of the universe the chance is like 99.99999% that we are not.

The correct way of thinking is always assuming that we are part of a cycle and not just something that happens once and is over.

One more metaphor. Before Darwin's generation, noone beleived in evolution. Even after evolution was discovered, it was thought that, yes evolution happened, but it is not going on today. This was the scientifically accepted viewpoint. We know that they were wrong, but there is a lot to be learned.

If you have two choices, and none of them can be proved, the one that promotes sustainable cycles and the possibility endless mathematical possibilies instead of just one is the correct one 99.9% of the time.

[MadSativa]

Absolutely No Thing happened before the BB..

or is it nothing and everything??? by the way your name is cool

[natureisawesome]

Justum17 said:

Well, time is physical, meaning that it can slow down and speed up, the same as light.

So,
God is outside of that dimension, just as we're in a 3d dimension.

And there are atleast 12 dimensions that are known.

Listen to some Chuck Missler

no, time isn't physical. And I have heard that light may be slowing down. This would clear up a lot of things for creationists.

How do they know there are 12 dimensions?

[THClord]

Time is physical, time is affected by elevation.

And my bad, it's 10 known dimensions, and i believe 12 probable (dont quote me on the 12)

Bullshit

Read Einstein's theory of relativity pls. Time is slowed by acceleration, not elevation. And so time goes slower by those who are moving faster. Whatever, this explanation is incomplete. Google it.

And it is physically impossible to prove a 4th dimension if you are stuck in the 3rd. Why are there 10? I'd be very happy if you'd prove me wrong on this one.

I usually just ignore god posts, but you just had too many things wrong in your post.

Wouldnt it be possible to you non-creationists to think that God might just be outside of the dimensions of time/space? Its a very plausible thing.

This is like saying, "There's two possibilities when I buy a lottery ticket. Either I win or I lose. So the chances of winning are 50%." A possibility doesn't mean anything....

If god exists for sure, then of course it might be a significant possibility. But I'd put the chances of god existing at more like 0.00000000000001%. Watch the first 20 min of Zeitgeist on google video pls. If you will still feel like proving god exists after watching it, be my guest.

[THClord]

because the Earth rotates, and points at different elevations on Earth will make different sized circular paths relative to the center of the Earth in the same time. Larger path/same time = larger acceleration for higher elevations

I'll watch the vid you posted now