Jay-Z Vs. Lil Wayne

[Number 1 DJ]

Lil Wayne sux, Jay is a legend get over it. The only people who can't see that live in the south.

word, i live in the south and i think lil wayne suks, now thats saying sumthing but i do notice all my high school classman are all like lil wayne is the shit!!!

[dankman]

this post just gets me more and more upset the more i read it. people are saying "the golden era of rap" that was your era now were in our era lets just go different ways you can listen to your jayz albums and ill listen to the wayne albums

and to the guy with the jay z picture thing

Does smoking weed make you retarded? Or were you just trying spell like a idiot so we'd think youre weed was the best beacause as of now i havent smoked anything that would make me type like that

but yah go bump your shit ill bump mine

[Joe Paterno]

yea I was lit off my ass during my last post, surprised I could function my computer

anyways, law school is about to get going again so I won't be posting too frequently but the point of my last post was to mention how illmatic was my no 1 all time album and only built for cuban linx was 2...prolly have hell on earth (I know infamous is more popular), ready to die and 7 day theory to round out the top 5...illadelph halflife, reasonable doubt, me against the world, follow the leader and one other (maybe daddy kane, nwa or someone) for the rest of my top 10

my point was that even if you love wayne you should take the time out to check some of the 90s era music because there was an insane amount of legendary records produced (especially btw/94-96) I myself didn't fully appreciate alot of this music until years after it was released.

Would also like to mention that for any of the new generations looking to "hang their hat" on a rapper from this era (maybe realize that weezy isn't even at the top of his class, I know shocking), my top 2 so far this decade are no.1 Lupe Fiasco and no.2 Joe Budden. I know alot of ppl attach Lupe to a skateboard rapper but his double (and even triple) metaphors are so ridiculous that it was said about his first album and I quote "similiar to nas' illmatic, lupe is so far ahead of his time that it will take the majority of current listeners years to catch on". For example, in the track Failure, Lupe says "had to get my walk to properly explain my talk/cuz this lack in talk had my walk lookin off/ now im over the limp, watch how they mugs drop when they see my verbals able (thats the usual)/ when I was PO/ I was LO/ now me and my CHAPS rock PURPLE LABEL"

-if you see the usual suspects (hence the words thats the usual) there was a character named verbal who walked with a limp and when found out about the cop dropped his mug...plus the polo, chaps, purple label clothing 'phor

as for budden...check out mood musik 1 and 2 if you havent, they are classic mixtapes...or just see dumb out (2006 track of the yr by far), 3 sides to a story (maybe top 5 storytelling track of all time-great when stoned), 10 minutes and if i die tmrw to get a feel



dont smoke during school so this board will serve as little purpose to me but will check back b/c I like to see how the conversation will evolve...stay light up peoples

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[Joe Paterno]

this post just gets me more and more upset the more i read it. people are saying "the golden era of rap" that was your era now were in our era lets just go different ways you can listen to your jayz albums and ill listen to the wayne albums

and to the guy with the jay z picture thing

Does smoking weed make you retarded? Or were you just trying spell like a idiot so we'd think youre weed was the best beacause as of now i havent smoked anything that would make me type like that

but yah go bump your shit ill bump mine

we posted at similiar times I guess b/c I didnt see this post. And no smoking doesn't make me retarded at all but I was out enjoying life and having a few drinks, came home and burned an L with my neighbor while surfing the net, came upon this site while cuban linx was playing and felt the urge to post hence the spelling to mistakes (liqs + kush = typos). To infer that my spelling mistakes were somehow to imply that your weed was inferior is not only a ridiculous assertion but one only a severly paranoid person would make as I said nothing about your trees.

The golden era of rap was 1994-1996, that is what it is called my friend. In 1996 with the release of RD Jay brought on the bling bling rap which is still prevelant today. No one is saying you can't enjoy your rap today, it's great that people love the culture and have different tastes, that is fine. The problem is that sales are rapidly declining and the artists that are selling are increasingly less talented since 2003 and the suburban obsession with 50 Cent. We see our favorites (The Roots, Meth, Ghost twice) releasing superb albums in 06 and get not even a listen from this new generation, it scares us.

All I, and most heads, ask is that the future generation spend the time to listen to what built the culture (I mean for god sakes, the music is fuckin free now). It isn't like I'm arguing that George Mikan is better than Shaq, I am referring rappers who made their debut 10-15 years ago. Just go back and listen to the classics, they aren't dated and will give you a basis point for why these current rappers are even able to make a living (albeit a fading one due to current industry standards)

[OLDE ENGLISH '800]

came upon this site while cuban linx was playing

great album

[CYRAX]

If you ask me, lil wayne got some funny bars and shit but he just don't sound serious when he's trying to be serious, Jay-Z has done so much more then him, company wise and rap wise, this answer is obvious.

[ismokealldaylong420]

well id have to say lil wayne becouse he is just cooler than a fan lol

[dankman]

people keep saying jay z has accomplished more.. well no shit hes in his 40's lil wayne is in his 20's but yah i agree with joe paterno about the roots and other bands not getting play time but tahts because their lyrics are to much for the radio to handle because basically the radio is hella gay. and as far as joe budden... i wouldnt have admitted that online hahahahahaha im just kidding

[Unknownfigure]

Just curious to get some views on the hov vs weezy debate and to share mine.

I think that they aren't comparable because Jay-Z's lyrics don't make you rewind the track but they make you think and they mean something. When Jay-Z raps he tells a story, and it makes sense and has a message. When Lil Wayne raps its to other peoples beats but he does it well, he's more of a freestyler. Weezy's lyrics rhyme and make you laugh and provide good entertainment but they don't convey a general message.

Short version:
Jay-Z's songs are good and they carry a message.
Lil Wayne's songs rhyme and have good lines but don't have a message.



Anyone else on this topic?

I don't like either, as there are better rappers that possess the best of both worlds as far as message and rhyme go (Z-Ro, Trae, Big Hawk, many other people from the Screwed Up Click) but the more I like out of the two, would probably be Jay-Z mostly because he's starting to give back to the community now.