Jay-Z Vs. Lil Wayne

[Mex]

Just curious to get some views on the hov vs weezy debate and to share mine.

I think that they aren't comparable because Jay-Z's lyrics don't make you rewind the track but they make you think and they mean something. When Jay-Z raps he tells a story, and it makes sense and has a message. When Lil Wayne raps its to other peoples beats but he does it well, he's more of a freestyler. Weezy's lyrics rhyme and make you laugh and provide good entertainment but they don't convey a general message.

Short version:
Jay-Z's songs are good and they carry a message.
Lil Wayne's songs rhyme and have good lines but don't have a message.



Anyone else on this topic?

Mex Reviewed by Mex on 08-04-2007. Jay-Z Vs. Lil Wayne Just curious to get some views on the hov vs weezy debate and to share mine. I think that they aren't comparable because Jay-Z's lyrics don't make you rewind the track but they make you think and they mean something. When Jay-Z raps he tells a story, and it makes sense and has a message. When Lil Wayne raps its to other peoples beats but he does it well, he's more of a freestyler. Weezy's lyrics rhyme and make you laugh and provide good entertainment but they don't convey a general Rating: 5

[Matt the Funk]

If Lil Wayne had more of a message he'd be close to being as good as Jay-Z....but a verse from "Moment of Clarity" off the black album describes Jays path well "Music business hate me cause the industry ain't make me
Hustlers and boosters embrace me and the music I be makin
I dumbed down for my audience to double my dollars
They criticized me for it yet they all yell "HOLLA!"
If skills sold, truth be told, I'd probably be
lyrically, Talib Kweli
Truthfully I wanna rhyme like Common Sense
But I did five mill' - I ain't been rhymin like Common since
When your cents got that much in common
And you been hustlin since, your inception
Fuck perception go with what makes sense
Since I know what I'm up against
We as rappers must decide what's most impor-tant
And I can't help the poor if I'm one of them
So I got rich and gave back, to me that's the win/win
So next time you see the homey and his rims spin
Just know my mind is workin just like them...
... rims, that is"

[MacWQ33]

That's a damn good summation and I'd agree...but I'd say Jay has a little of both. Jay definitely has so many one-liners that you go "Ohhhhh shit"...but yeah, not like Wayne tries to do with every line. And Wayne does have one song that comes to mind that is 'message like' with "Fuck The World".

That being said...I'd put Jay as a Top 3 MC of all-time, and arguably numero uno, and Wayne maybe somewhere in 40-50, maybe higher. Just my opinion though.

[Myself]

Lil Wayne hands down....he is a master lyricist and will tear anyone down on the floor. He's just a beast that cant be tamed.

[nschell_420]

Lil Wayne sux, Jay is a legend get over it. The only people who can't see that live in the south.

[Brett1038]

Lil Wayne sux, Jay is a legend get over it. The only people who can't see that live in the south.

Lil Wayne doesnt suck...his shit is raw as fuck and u don't listen to the right shit if u think its wack


but Jay is definetly the better lyricist and he can deliver moving messages through his music

[king of the world]

the better question is who is better to listen to when your high???

lil wayne hands down. jay-z is boring to listen to if your high. while lil wayne fully entertains you, plus he is high all the time so its like he understands what u want to listen to.

[Mex]

Wayne's rhymes make u skip the deck and go back, you hear it and your like OH SHITTT you go back and listen to it again and again. HOV you get it, you don't rewind, but you think. I think Wayne is better to listen to when high, and yeah Wayne is a lyrical beast he would tear down anyone on the spot in a freestyle but in a contest where you gotta write a song that actually has a message and at least 90% of it has to make sense, Jay-Z owns Wayne easy. Overall they are two different types of rappers, and Jay-Z is more than a rapper, he's a legend. Wayne's a legend in the making. That's all there is to it.
I think Wayne's best piece is Something You Forgot. Here are some of the lyrics from it:

Pain, since I've lost you, I'm lost too
***** feelin' like he at the bottom like a horse shoe
Sorry for the trouble that I put you and your heart through
God knows that I'd do anything for a part two, or to
be prayin' for the day you come back to me,
sayin' that you forgive me
Give me another chance, I'm needin' it like a kidney
I don't wanna advance, give me back her hands
Give me back her touch, I don't ask for much
but I fucked up, I know I fucked up, I admit I fucked up
but everybody fuck up, now this other ***** lucked up
Tellin' me and my clique don't give a fuck
Cause um, we from New Orleans, she was from Georgia
She was my down chick, I was her soldier
I was her gangsta, she was my shoulder
You were the pistol to my holster .. BANG!

[Mex]

YouTube - Lil Wayne-Something You Forgot
There's a link to Something You Forgot, that was the first verse I put up there, and the other 2 verses get better. If you like Wayne, hell even if you don't like him (you will after this song), listen to it. It's got tons of crazy lines, and they all make sense, and the song has a general theme of missing a once-loved one. This song really does it for me when I'm baked, hope it does the same for all of you too.

[yoda]

lil wayne hasnt accomplished half of what jay-z has