Quote Originally Posted by sawleaf
So you are saying we should listen to a government that lies to us and give up our firearms? Why should we have a government that is corrupt and let it disarm it's own people? I believe the people should always have more power than the government. We are becoming more and more oppressed everyday here. Just more of a reason to arm yourself in my eyes. If you regard the facts more closely and look at individual states in the US, you will see that the high crime areas are the areas with the strictest gun control laws. States with low gun control have significantly lower crime rates than states where guns are heavily restricted. Look at our nation's capitol, Washington DC, high crime rate, you can't even own pepper spray there, yet there are gang shootings all the time and people dying there every day on the news. If you choose to defend yourself there you are automatically a criminal. Is this okay with you Ghost???

Yes people who "defend themselves" with guns are criminals. Its that way in every other nation in the world. Only you american cowboys think the answer to crime is start shooting. Thats a backward and ignorant attitude. People have guns in canada, aus, nz, but in all those countries its illegal to use them as self defence, unless its an animal attacking you. I dont care if a gang breaks in and rapes your wife, shooting them adds to the problem of crime.
As for the whole "we gun owners are keeping the government in check" argument, thats absurd. Every iraqi is allowed to have an ak-47 and it hasnt help them defnd themselves from evil american government. Your little gun isnt going to shit against the FBI ATF and whoever else uncle sam wants to sick on your ass.
Its moronic to say states with gun control laws have more crime. Thats why guns were banned there, the high crime. No place bans guns and then the criminals go on a spree, that doesnt happen except in an nra pamplet. You need to ban guns america wide, thats the only way. You cant sell guns in one town and ban them in the next one, but you can make them much harder to get by banning them nation wide. It works everywhere else in the world, but you guys dont much about that place out there.
And i hate americans so fuck you and your guns