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    #11
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    Coelho's Current Signature

    Maybe Coelho does interpret the quote as I do, but there's only one way to find out...

    COELHO!!!!!! WHERE ARE YOU???!!

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    #12
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    Coelho's Current Signature

    Im here! My PC had some problems (ive lost my power source, motherboard and two HD's), so only wednesday i could fix them all.

    And let me say... i deeply moved right now... this is the first thread with my name in it... :sadcrying

    Well... i will quote the part of the book from where that quote was taken. Castaneda had said that he had recieved letters from people saying that was wrong to publish books about the teachings of don Juan, and that oriental masters demanded complete secret about their teachings. So, don Juan answered:

    "You say you've heard that the masters of Eastern esoteric doctrines demand absolute secrecy about their teachings. Perhaps those masters are just indulging in being masters. I'm not a master, I'm only a warrior. So I really don't know what a master feels like.

    It doesn't matter what one reveals or what one keeps to oneself. Everything we do, everything we are, rests on our personal power. If we have enough of it, one word uttered to us might be sufficient to change the course of our lives. But if we don't have enough personal power, the most magnificent piece of wisdom can be revealed to us and that revelation won't make a damn bit of difference.

    I'm going to utter perhaps the greatest piece of knowledge anyone can voice. Let me see what you can do with it. Do you know that at this very moment you are surrounded by eternity? And do you know that you can use that eternity, if you so desire?

    There! Eternity is there! All around! Do you know that you can extend yourself forever in any of the directions I have pointed to? Do you know that one moment can be eternity? This is not a riddle; it's a fact, but only if you mount that moment and use it to take the totality of yourself forever in any direction.

    You didn't have this knowledge before, now you do. I have revealed it to you, but it doesn't make a bit of difference, because you don't have enough personal power to utilize my revelation. Yet if you did have enough power, my words alone would serve as the means for you to round up the totality of yourself and to get the crucial part of it out of the boundaries in which it is contained."

    Don Juan poked my chest lightly with his fingers, and said:
    "This are the limits i mean
    [our body]. One can get out of those boundaries. We are a feeling, an awareness encased here.
    We are luminous beings and for a luminous being only personal power matters."


    What don Juan call personal power is everything we have that give us power to do things. So, knowledge is power, as it allows we to do things we couldnt if we hadnt knowledge, strenght is power, and so.
    In the case of my signature, i think don Juan is talking about knowledge.

    For example, if you give a book of pharmaceutics for a doctor, he can make a medicine, but if you give the same book for a engineer, for example, he may read it, but will not make any difference for him, cause he dont have the knowledge needed to use the informations in the book.

    I hope i had explained my point... if not, feel free to ask.
    One strange coincidence is that today i was reading this book, exactly at this chapter, then did read the quote that is my signature, and started to wonder how i could explain it for somebody, if needed. And just some hours after it, i arrive here at cann.com and find this thread... "ohh... it makes me wonder..."

    And, again, im still moved by the thread with my name in it... :thumbsup:

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    #13
    Senior Member

    Coelho's Current Signature

    Quote Originally Posted by Coelho
    Im here! My PC had some problems (ive lost my power source, motherboard and two HD's), so only wednesday i could fix them all.

    And let me say... i deeply moved right now... this is the first thread with my name in it... :sadcrying

    Well... i will quote the part of the book from where that quote was taken. Castaneda had said that he had recieved letters from people saying that was wrong to publish books about the teachings of don Juan, and that oriental masters demanded complete secret about their teachings. So, don Juan answered:

    "You say you've heard that the masters of Eastern esoteric doctrines demand absolute secrecy about their teachings. Perhaps those masters are just indulging in being masters. I'm not a master, I'm only a warrior. So I really don't know what a master feels like.

    It doesn't matter what one reveals or what one keeps to oneself. Everything we do, everything we are, rests on our personal power. If we have enough of it, one word uttered to us might be sufficient to change the course of our lives. But if we don't have enough personal power, the most magnificent piece of wisdom can be revealed to us and that revelation won't make a damn bit of difference.

    I'm going to utter perhaps the greatest piece of knowledge anyone can voice. Let me see what you can do with it. Do you know that at this very moment you are surrounded by eternity? And do you know that you can use that eternity, if you so desire?

    There! Eternity is there! All around! Do you know that you can extend yourself forever in any of the directions I have pointed to? Do you know that one moment can be eternity? This is not a riddle; it's a fact, but only if you mount that moment and use it to take the totality of yourself forever in any direction.

    You didn't have this knowledge before, now you do. I have revealed it to you, but it doesn't make a bit of difference, because you don't have enough personal power to utilize my revelation. Yet if you did have enough power, my words alone would serve as the means for you to round up the totality of yourself and to get the crucial part of it out of the boundaries in which it is contained."

    Don Juan poked my chest lightly with his fingers, and said:
    "This are the limits i mean
    [our body]. One can get out of those boundaries. We are a feeling, an awareness encased here.
    We are luminous beings and for a luminous being only personal power matters."


    What don Juan call personal power is everything we have that give us power to do things. So, knowledge is power, as it allows we to do things we couldnt if we hadnt knowledge, strenght is power, and so.
    In the case of my signature, i think don Juan is talking about knowledge.

    For example, if you give a book of pharmaceutics for a doctor, he can make a medicine, but if you give the same book for a engineer, for example, he may read it, but will not make any difference for him, cause he dont have the knowledge needed to use the informations in the book.

    I hope i had explained my point... if not, feel free to ask.
    One strange coincidence is that today i was reading this book, exactly at this chapter, then did read the quote that is my signature, and started to wonder how i could explain it for somebody, if needed. And just some hours after it, i arrive here at cann.com and find this thread... "ohh... it makes me wonder..."

    And, again, im still moved by the thread with my name in it... :thumbsup:
    Awesome, I'll definitely give your post a read when I'm less stoned :stoned:

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