Quote Originally Posted by the image reaper
Islam ? ... 'don't murder' ? ... animals ? .. Islam regards animals as filthy, unlcean beasts for the most part, un-worthy of life ... yeah, and we've all seen how they have "strived to make the world a better place" ... don't fall into the "only Islam radicals feel that way" crap ... read the Koran, it is a vicious, murderous cult full of hate for non-believers ... as a Christian, I won't hate you if you turn to Islam, (or anything else), but I will pray for your salvation ... hope you work it all out, while you still have time ... :smokin:
No offense, but how many Muslims do you know personally? How many mosques have you been to? I have many good Muslim friends and have been to several mosques.

I don't want to turn this thread into a Islam vs. Christianity thing, but I must respond to your, what I perceive, as insults:

-The only animal Muslims perceive as unclean are pigs. If an animal must be killed for food, it must be done swiftly, cleanly and not in the presence of babies (animals). The animals also must be well fed and given plenty of drinking water, with lots of room to roam around. Compare that to the slaughterhouses and factory farms we have here.

-The Qur'an. Have you read it? It's filled with allegories and metaphors, just like the bible is. And you can't rely on a translation, because Muslims don't regard that as the true Qur'an. For example, the popular myth of the 70 virgins thing is merely a metaphor. In Arabic, Virgins are a symbol of purity. And the Arabic number for 70 (or whatever the exact number is) is like saying in English: "I called you a million times". Of course you don't mean that literally. But that's the problem with translation, it doesn't grasp these concepts that exist in the Arabic language.

-As far as Muslims being a murderous cult, you can say that about any religion. Christianity has a brutal history. Bush (a devout Christian) himself said God told him to invade Iraq. So much for that love and tolerance I keep hearing about.

-Muslims hate non-believers? Maybe some do, just as some Christians are intolerant of non-Christians. The Qur'an says non-believers must be protected and treated with respect. The famous verse about killing unbelievers was revealed at a time when the Prophet was being constantly attacked by pagans and God basically gave him permission to defend himself.


Again, I don't want to turn this thread into a smear campaign against religions, I don't believe in that. I apologize if anyone thinks that's my intentions.

But don't judge a religion until you know something about it. There's a lot of propaganda out there and you can't believe everything you hear. The best way to learn about Islam is to (here's a shocker) make friends with Muslims, check out a mosque and learn what they really believe - not what some preacher thinks they believe.

The Muslims I know have a deep respect for Judaism and Christianity. They don't judge. Even when I told them I smoked weed they were very curious about it - never rebuked me like some of my Christian friends did.

This is the one thing I can't stand about religion: that "holier than thou" attitude. You displayed it in your own post. You said your going to "pray for my salvation" - like you're somehow above me and I need your prayers. Well don't waste your time. I'd rather have no one praying for me at all than one person who is so intolerant of other's beliefs. You're not giving Christianity a good name. My parents, who are strong Christians, might not like my interest in Islam, but they can at least respect it. They can at least know when to ask questions and they know the difference between propoganda and real beliefs. They really do espouse the christian ideal of "love and tolerance." You don't seem to have that.

Sorry for the rant.