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    Do you believe in aliens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut
    I'm not entirely sure that the aliens wouldn't announce their presence if they stumbled across us in their interstellar travels. If they're really that concerned about our well-being, wouldn't they tell us how to evade the dangers of global warming, nuclear holocaust, and overpopulation? Are they going to wait until the last minute to intervene on our behalf just before we wipe ourselves out? I think they would realize that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, and that the right thing to do is to come to our aid well before it's too late.

    Anyhow, I wouldn't expect the aliens to be morally perfect angels. They may indeed have more advanced moralities than we do, just as we consider ourselves to have more sophisticated moralities than our slave-owning anti-democratic racist ancestors. But I bet they would still get in situations where they acted in their own self-interest rather than out of empathy for others. Perfection, I suspect, is an impossible achievement.
    What about free will? They may be waiting to intervene when man has evolved more and will ask for the help of outside intelligence.

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    #32
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    Do you believe in aliens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut
    It is not an illusion that the Earth is a sphere. Look at the attached photo. If the word "sphere" means anything, this is clearly an example of one.

    And what do you mean by "nonphysical boundaries"? If something is nonphysical, what is it? How can something exist yet not be in the physical universe? I don't understand. It's like trying to imagine a number that's 2 and 3 at the same time. Everything I've ever confirmed as existing has been something physical in the physical universe. I don't see any evidence of the existence of anything nonphysical, or the possibility that there is a way of existing besides physical existence, and I can't even imagine what kind of evidence could possibly be counted as evidence of something nonphysical. Reality = physicality.
    everything in "physicality" is made up of [concept] and [form] ; one is nonphysical, the other is "physical"... therefore,
    REALITY = nonphysical + physical = EXPERIENCE

    "How can something exist yet not be in the physical universe?"
    That is the mystery of existence. Finding the nonphysical part of you is the key to realizing how things come and go.

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