I appreciate all of the advice, and I do agree with your points, SlyTX, no doubt. She just refuses to substitute. *shrugs* What can ya do?

We both used the Vale Detox syrup/drink a few years ago. I stopped smoking for about a week, she for about 2 weeks, then we followed all of their instructions (basically a 72 hour window where you can't use and have to avoid certain things like vinegar, caffeine, alcohol, etc) and then did as it said on test day.

It DOES make your urine super neon yellow, there's no doubt about that, hence our paranoia. However, so do a lot of vitamins and even power drinks these days. Basically all these drinks are, I believe, is the dillution method in a bottle. You're guzzling 30-40oz of liquids, packed with vitamins and creatine and stuff, so it's dropping your THC-levels and then building the natural substances in your pee back up. We're 2 for 2 with Vales, and since she's small and went 2 weeks without smoking then maybe she passed 'naturally', but I am 99% sure Vales did it for me, as I was a VERY heavy and long-term user, and only had 1 week off before my test. Both passed, both got the job. I also first learned about Vales from a sports player on a bigtime college football team, who used it to pass NCAA tests (or so he claimed), which spoke volumes to me.

The Duz'Z It (which is the company we also bought the 15-day cleaning kit from, whether or not that had any effect is still up in the air, however, she is testing clean after having toxin levels about as high as one can) pitch is that it is 100% undetectable, and although a lot of people bash that company, they HAVE been around a long time, and have given me some good info. I have to think the two drinks are the same gig, as they look similar, claim to do the same thing, and have very similar instructions.

I'm just not confident with going in with her urine alone, and she's not willing to substitute. Yes, it means she may have a neon yellow sample, but we both did those two times and nothing came of it. Worst case scenario you say you take a lot of vitamins or had a power drink that morning before you jogged or something. Personally, I don't think they even ask you about it, as they didn't us. But it's a lot easier to explain away why your urine is bright yellow and/or full of vitamins and stuff, than it is to explain to this kind of employer why they found trace amounts of THC in your sample. *shrugs again*

I guess we'll be the donkey with the Duz'Z It then. :/ I'll report back, although her passing will definitely NOT be a testament that Duz'Z It works, but rather that it truly is undetectable.

FBR - who's given me some GREAT advice here, and does truly seem to be an expert - said they simply cannot test for these drinks on another thread. So I'm thinking he knows or has experience. I hope so anyhow! heh

Thanks for taking the time to write all that, SlyTX, just talking about it makes us feel better.

Turns out test may be tomorrow instead of today, I'll let ya know. *crosses fingers*
getntested Reviewed by getntested on . Those 5-hour-window syrups/drinks, you're 100% sure they can't be tested for??? I know I asked this the other day, but just want to one more time to make ABSOLUTE sure this info is correct. I ask because we have a test tomorrow, and we are testing negative on the home kits (have passed two at-home tests during the middle of the day with no tampering or dillution, just regular urine) however we FAILED one early in the morning in the first urine... this showed me that there is at least enough toxin still there that we COULD fail, and we can't take that chance. And Rating: 5