Bush logic

[Mello.as.Hello]

It doesn't matter why we're killing, or why we did what and when. What matters is that people are dying, and there is no way to justify that. War is wrong, regardless of the reasons behind it.

[dreadhed]

You know Clinton was one of the most warring President, indescretely of course, in about 45 years (I could be a little off). So just go on believing what the proven left wing obviously biased media tells you instead of researching all points of information yourself. Alot of people are really good at that and then forming opinions without questioning. Does every one just forget all the wars Clinton engaged in "for" America, but thats ok because he got some head in the Oval Office and , that's where the focus needed to go, right???! If you think Sadam was not so bad then all I can say is too bad you did not live there so you could watch your mom and sister get raped while they shoved a hot poker up your ass. Sounds like a good time doesn't it? Don't get me wrong I am not a huge Bush fan, but I am tired of hearing all of these misinformed whiners crying about it. Move to a country like that and see what you think. Why do you think Iraqis would try to escape to America? When you have a month/s notice that you're going to be invaded it's not too hard to get rid of every thing. Did you know they DID find some wmds. Syrian gas bombs. Or do you not count that because it does not fit your agenda. They did not find stock piles is more accurate. It would not be too hard to give them to someone else, such as a close neighbor. All I can say is I'm glad he is out of power. Now they need to find Osama and kill his fucking ass on public TV for all of the world to see. Just one more question where was all of this crying when Clinton bomd Iraq?

[KronicKing]

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[psychocat]

You know Clinton was one of the most warring President, indescretely of course, in about 45 years (I could be a little off). So just go on believing what the proven left wing obviously biased media tells you instead of researching all points of information yourself. Alot of people are really good at that and then forming opinions without questioning. Does every one just forget all the wars Clinton engaged in "for" America, but thats ok because he got some head in the Oval Office and , that's where the focus needed to go, right???! If you think Sadam was not so bad then all I can say is too bad you did not live there so you could watch your mom and sister get raped while they shoved a hot poker up your ass. Sounds like a good time doesn't it? Don't get me wrong I am not a huge Bush fan, but I am tired of hearing all of these misinformed whiners crying about it. Move to a country like that and see what you think. Why do you think Iraqis would try to escape to America? When you have a month/s notice that you're going to be invaded it's not too hard to get rid of every thing. Did you know they DID find some wmds. Syrian gas bombs. Or do you not count that because it does not fit your agenda. They did not find stock piles is more accurate. It would not be too hard to give them to someone else, such as a close neighbor. All I can say is I'm glad he is out of power. Now they need to find Osama and kill his fucking ass on public TV for all of the world to see. Just one more question where was all of this crying when Clinton bomd Iraq?

Moronic thinking leads to moronic decisions.
Another countries politics should be decided by the people of that country , the people of France and Britain and even the US have known civil war due to oppresive regimes, the people of Iraq could've been left to sort out their own shit.
But wait a minute wasn't a former US goverment instrumental in setting up Saddam in the first place
If it was about human rights how come the US isn't rattling it's sabres at China?? or Turkmenistan?? or even Rwanda?
Are you forgetting the fact that the US and Britain have both admitted that the intelligence about WMD was "flawed"?
So the focus should be on Clinton??
Why should Clinton be the only one to get it? Look back at post 1945 and you will find lots of incidences of the goverment of the USA using force to enable the US ideaology to be furthered.
Pinochet,Saddam,Osama and his Taliban were all aided and supported by the US , way back in 63 Saddam was in contact with the CIA , it was the betrayal of the people who wanted to topple Saddam after the Gulf War that has left an awful lot of Iraqis believing the US are liars.
The cronyism and the blatant abuse of power are shown in the awarding of contracts for the re-building of Iraq.
Now what were you saying??

PS Never assume anything , I do a lot of research to back up any claims I make so you can forget that tack right away.

[ermitonto]

If Myanmar had lots of oil, I bet Bush would be in a frenzy to do a "pre-emptive strike" on the military dictatorship there...for freedom and democracy though, of course.

I can't wait to get out of this country (and move to Holland!)

[Mello.as.Hello]

You know Clinton was one of the most warring President, indescretely of course, in about 45 years (I could be a little off). So just go on believing what the proven left wing obviously biased media tells you instead of researching all points of information yourself. Alot of people are really good at that and then forming opinions without questioning. Does every one just forget all the wars Clinton engaged in "for" America, but thats ok because he got some head in the Oval Office and , that's where the focus needed to go, right???! If you think Sadam was not so bad then all I can say is too bad you did not live there so you could watch your mom and sister get raped while they shoved a hot poker up your ass. Sounds like a good time doesn't it? Don't get me wrong I am not a huge Bush fan, but I am tired of hearing all of these misinformed whiners crying about it. Move to a country like that and see what you think. Why do you think Iraqis would try to escape to America? When you have a month/s notice that you're going to be invaded it's not too hard to get rid of every thing. Did you know they DID find some wmds. Syrian gas bombs. Or do you not count that because it does not fit your agenda. They did not find stock piles is more accurate. It would not be too hard to give them to someone else, such as a close neighbor. All I can say is I'm glad he is out of power. Now they need to find Osama and kill his fucking ass on public TV for all of the world to see. Just one more question where was all of this crying when Clinton bomd Iraq?

The debate is not wether or not Saddam Hussein was bad for iraq, or should have been removed. The problem, the fucking BLARINGLY OBVIOUS problem is that we went into Iraq looking for WMD's, but we didn't find any. We were looking for Weapons of mass destruction, not Syrian gas bombs. Bush and his cabinet claimed Hussein was storing and producing weapons of mass destruction (possibly nuclear), and in posession of materials to do so. But we DIDN'T FIND ANY.

The bush family is not a legacy, they are a dictatorship. Regardless of the reasons, or the legality, "Dubya" always somehow mispronounces and babbles his way into Joe Bluecollar's heart, and gets away with WHATEVER THE FUCK HE WANTS. Nothing aggravates me more than ignorant, closed-minded people who believe Bush is great just because "He's a country boy"... who would never do something wrong, because... well... he's the president. And the president is always right. Unfortunately, Bush is a shitty president, who should not have invaded Iraq, and certainly not have been re-elected. And now we're stuck with him for 4 more years.

And before you say anything about "you haven't been there": I may not have lived in Iraq. But Lieutenant Daniel Almon Richards, of the United States Marine Corps, my best friend of 15 years, gave his LIFE for Bush's self-gratifying agenda. I have experienced FIRST HAND the consequences of one man's ego, and too much power, and I come to the same comclusion as everyone else:

[align=center]WAR IS WRONG.[/align]

[GHoSToKeR]

It doesn't matter why we're killing, or why we did what and when. What matters is that people are dying, and there is no way to justify that. War is wrong, regardless of the reasons behind it.

Agreed. Sadly this is the one point that usually gets ignored

[dreadhed]

Moronic thinking leads to moronic decisions.
Another countries politics should be decided by the people of that country , the people of France and Britain and even the US have known civil war due to oppresive regimes, the people of Iraq could've been left to sort out their own shit.
But wait a minute wasn't a former US goverment instrumental in setting up Saddam in the first place
If it was about human rights how come the US isn't rattling it's sabres at China?? or Turkmenistan?? or even Rwanda?
Are you forgetting the fact that the US and Britain have both admitted that the intelligence about WMD was "flawed"?
So the focus should be on Clinton??
Why should Clinton be the only one to get it? Look back at post 1945 and you will find lots of incidences of the goverment of the USA using force to enable the US ideaology to be furthered.
Pinochet,Saddam,Osama and his Taliban were all aided and supported by the US , way back in 63 Saddam was in contact with the CIA , it was the. D betrayal of the people who wanted to topple Saddam after the Gulf War that has left an awful lot of Iraqis believing the US are liars.
The cronyism and the blatant abuse of power are shown in the awarding of contracts for the re-building of Iraq.
Now what were you saying??

PS Never assume anything , I do a lot of research to back up any claims I make so you can forget that tack right away.

Wow name calling thats how you get people to listem, & prove your worth talking to. US did support Osoama and they other. I did I not say I bindly follow what ever the Gov says. My question is where was all this crying when Clinton was out to war?
And how can sarin & mustard gas not be conserded WMD. They can kill thousands of poeple at once.
Well psyco your such a big man calling someone names online. Does it make you feel like a bigger person. I not closed to hearing other sides but you seem to be & thats to bad. Did I say Clinton should be the only one to get no, I guess you just assumeing liked you asked me not to. Oh well thats what I would expect from some acting immature.

[psychocat]

Your president is a moron in my eyes so I don't consider it name calling so much as speaking the truth , oh and he's an imbecile.

The title of the post should give a clue as to why Clinton isn't the man of the moment , would you like to start a thread entitled Clinton logic ?
As for WMD
http://www.sundayherald.com/41037
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_...%255E2,00.html
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0317-03.htm

Through history there have been many stupid leaders (Napoleon in Russia) but at this moment in time the subject is BUSH , if you wish to stay on topic I will be more than pleased to discuss the matter further.
My thoughts on the legitimacy of the war can be found here
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthrea...t=10030&page=1

[FRANKFRANKFRANK]

Not to be cheap or childish, but Bush can suck all the cum out of my cock until he chokes!