Thanks for the advice, all.

Well, bad news, she failed the at home test kit this morning (we went with the first urine of the day and the START of the stream, so I could truly see if she was 110% clean.... she is not. )

Needless to say, we're both freaking out a little. She gets REAL nervous in situations like this, and just does NOT have the confidence to use the substitute method. I know that sucks, as that seems to be the only fully fail-proof way, but I know her well enough to know that she would have a VERY difficult time doing that and may mess something up, like the temp. I've read the thread and I know it's not that complicated, but she just does not want to do it, does not have the confidence.

I am going to go to GNC and get a few more test kits, as well as some detox tea and see how she tests over the next two days. It would be more comforting if she at least tested negative in a mid-day/mid-stream urine rather than the ultimate test we went with today.

Having said that all....

We do have this "Duz'z It" 32oz syrup that we bought along with the kit. As I mentioned above, we have both used Vale Detox syrup in the past and both passed with it (we also quit for 2 weeks those times as well, which is important to note, as I don't have any faith that someone can smoke up until the test and use one of them). After reading all of the good info on this forum, I realize that really all the big syrup jugs are are expensive bottled dilution methods. *shrugs* Ahhh well, we already bought it, so we'll go with that.


Does anyone know if there are any differences between the Duz'z It and the Vale Detox? Or are they basically the same thing? We bought this Duz'z It one (and they are expensive!) so I really don't want to go out and get a Vale, but I KNOW Vale works, as I've used it, I don't know anything about the new one I have. The site does claim it is all natural and therefore they can't test for it though, so if they're similar, I'll probably stick with what we have.


Also, I have read some things online today saying that some testing companies CAN test for masking agents. I know you said "no" to that possibility, is that because the big syrup is NOT actually a masking agent, but rather just a bottled dillutioner?

Kind of just thinking out loud and rambling here, but we're nervous as heck! :/ Anyone who might have some more advice for us, or know anything about Vale vs Duz'z It, you'd sure make us feel better.

Thanks again, folks, this is a great forum!