Quote Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity
the us has always depended on its various alliances. to turn our backs on our only ally in the middle east would be not only foolish but nearly suicidal in an age where weapons technologies are traded like baseball cards. if america wishes to maintain any standing in the area, it cannot depend solely on its few semi-friendly arab contacts. abandoning israel to its isolated status as the non muslim state in the middle east would probably lead to even more open conflicts in the area than we already have.


this sounds like the naive "if we play nice, they'll play nice" garbage that the "peace at any cost" crowd always seems to pull out when they have nothing constructive to add to the discussion. as long as the west is dependent on middle-eastern oil there will be an american presence of some kind there and as long as there is an american presence in the area there will be those who see that presence as a threat. until the us weans itself of arabian oil or the hardliners of the area calm down their xenophobic tendencies, there will be no solutions and very little peace.
Howdy delusions,

Yer reply to medicinal,was right on target,and I doubt if I could have said it better-thanx ! :thumbsup:

What the anti-wars and the isolationists don't seem to grasp,is that this is boiling down to a fight for the very survival of the Free World..and that what happens in the rest of the world,does impact us,here in America and our allies too.

Another thing that many peaceniks are in denial of,is the dedication that muslim-arabs have in regards to fulfilling the command of the koran to wipe out Israel and murder all Jews there and everywhere else they are to be found in the world. The koran also orders the destruction of all non-muslim goverments,but during WW2,the muslim-jihadists worked with hitler and rommel,in North Africa,to hunt down and murder Jews..their goals were congruent.

As badly as the peaceniks don't want anyone to set off any nukes,why are they willing to put Israel in a position where they have no choice but to use nukes ?

And then,there's Taiwan..they are a thriving democracy as well and have contributed much in the way of scientific achievement,yet the peaceniks would have us abandon them to the commie chinese.

Have a good one !